Using the logic of "Don't prosecute someone for stealing something
that they wouldn't buy anyway" then it would be OK if I stole a
Ferrari or a Lamborghini or a Bentley because I would never BUY any of
those cars? That's some pretty poor logic. Put me in jail for stealing
a $20,000 Toyota Camry, because I would maybe buy THAT, but steal a
car worth a quarter of a million dollars, and you should let me go
because I'd never actually pay for a car that expensive?
And once you own the crack, what is the incentive to become a real
customer again?
I know we've discussed the prevalence of cracked FCP suites to the
number of users out there, but I don't think that Apple is counting
cracked software in their user base. And if they did, then what's the
benefit to them other than an empty bragging point. I DO understand
the point that it may help to TRY software before you buy it, but in
that case, it's much easier to use the Avid 14 day trial instead of
spending the effort to crack it. And if you want to use it while you
LEARN it, then buy an academic version. I don't buy the argument that
cracks make people buy software. I do believe to some extent that this
works with music downloads. I have downloaded some free music, but
then I either realize that I hate it, in which case I delete it (and
in my mind, I shouldn't or wouldn't have paid for it in the first
place since I don't like it), or I end up buying it PLUS other stuff
by the same artist. I think the psychology - and price points - for
downloading free music distinguish themselves from "free" software.
On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Christian Foerster wrote:
> Honestly, I think Avid should not go after kids who pirate their
> software. It's not like they'd buy a license anyway, and they may
> become Avid's future customers.
>
> Just like all the kids editing on pirated copies of FCP.
>
> 2009/12/14, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com>:
> > He said at the beginning that one of his "regular viewers" told
> him he
> > wouldn't be able to get Ay-vid Media Composer working as a crack, so
> > he needed to do it to face the dare. He said that he didn't really
> > even know what it did himself other than edit stuff.
> >
> > Avid has to know that their stuff is being cracked. I think someone
> > mentioned that most of the manufacturers only count the hours
> after a
> > release (or before it, for that matter) when cracked versions hit
> the
> > internet.
> >
> > Like John Lennon, I'd like to IMAGINE a world where no one pirated
> > software. We'd hopefully have better software and less lame editors
> > that are competing with us using software that they didn't pay for.
> > Imagine all the people, living life as one. OowoooOOOoowoow....
> >
> > Back in the old days, it was probably very hard to find a good crack
> > of a Moviola or a Steenbeck.
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Ian Johnson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> It wasn't the dongle error. It did appear the crack was successful,
> >> but the
> >> installation was a failure due to trying to run it on Windows 7.
> I'm
> >> puzzled about why he decided to do a bittorrent tutorial on a
> >> program he had
> >> never heard of. If he picked something at random, how did he come
> up
> >> with
> >> Media Composer?
> >>
> >> I didn't know about the Transformers 2 thing. Where is the giant
> >> robots
> >> filter? I want to use that on my next project especially if it is
> >> anything
> >> like the sheep wipe. I don't know why Boris never included one of
> >> those.
> >>
> >> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> guanacaa@aol.com
> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:15 AM
> >> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] Guess who's popular with the kids?
> >>
> >> Yeah, I wondered about the dongle, but by then I was bored so I
> >> stopped
> >> watching.
> >> I agree with the hard time idea; is Avid likely to become aware of
> >> this, or
> >> to do anything about it if they are? And do they read the damn
> list,
> >> or
> >> should someone forward the link?
> >> Shirley
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com
> >> <mailto:steve4lists%40veralith.com> >
> >> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 7:33 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] Guess who's popular with the kids?
> >>
> >> If you watch all the way through to the end, you realize that he
> >> DOESN'T actually get "Ay-vid Media Composer" for free, because he
> >> selected the dongled version and as soon as it gets through the
> >> launch, the last dialog box he gets at the end of the "tutorial"
> says
> >> (I think) "You don't have a dongle. Do you want to quit?"
> >>
> >> The rest of the tutorial is pretty funny because he just keeps
> saying
> >> "hit this, say OK." Hit WHAT, for God's sake?
> >>
> >> I say Avid should take the kid to court for aiding and abetting and
> >> let him spend some time in the prison population. "Hey kid, nice
> >> crack!"
> >>
> >> On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:19 AM, guanacaa@aol.com <mailto:guanacaa%40aol.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "All right guys..."
> >> > Kind of grimly funny, in a weird way. I love the way he
> pronounced
> >> > Avid with a long "A". The comments are fun too. "Does anyone
> >> > recommend this software?"
> >> > Shirley
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Christian Foerster <public@braintrash.de
> >> <mailto:public%40braintrash.de> >
> >> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 2:49 am
> >> > Subject: [Avid-L2] [OT] Guess who's popular with the kids?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP7TehgYli4
> >> >
> >> > I'm sure you knew, because "they used this to put together
> >> > transformers 2 "
> >> >
> >> > Bye,
> >> > Christian
> >> >
> >> > --
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