Saturday, May 28, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Likely done with Avid

 

These movies were LIKELY DONE with Avid Media Composer:
(actually they were done on Avid Media Composer)
Mad Max: Fury Road
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
The Revenant
Spotlight
The Big Short
Star Trek Into Darkness Footage
Birdman
Whiplash
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
The Imitation Game
Sin City
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Nebraska
The Great Gatsby
The Amazing Spider-Man
Star Trek
Iron Man
The Artist

owen
> On May 28, 2016, at 10:02 AM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <gen@...> wrote :
> " Things got lost, drives wouldn't serve up things fast enough
> and moving media around and getting PP to find it when it's not where it
> left it is tantamount to 'understanding women' (excuse the sexism but I
> think it's a good analogy :-) )"
>
>
> My wife has been editing as long as I have and for the last 15ish years she has been Avid. For the last 23 years she hasn't gone "Offline" once, especially when it comes to chores lists. Had she been using Premiere or FCP I don't think I could make the same claim.
>
> To your points about Adobe Media Encoder I have now incorporated AME into my Avid workflows using QT Ref out of Avid into AME and it's working well for my needs. Not refuting your experience or preference just saying I can stay all warm and fuzzy in Avid and go the AME route so far.
>
> 4K may be the one area I have to jump ship but so far I'm making it work too on my first project. There is a part of me that is starting to realize all my work arounds are beginning to feel like changing deck chairs on the Titanic. ;-)
>
> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <gen@...> wrote :
>
> Hi All,
>
> Been reading this thread with great interest.
>
> I've been using Avid since the very early days, after I moved on from
> D-Vision! But I left the employed post production environment almost
> 10years ago just when HD was gathering momentum. But in my freelance
> roles I continued using Avids. Certainly not broke so no need to fix it.
>
> I twiddled and dipped my toes with Premiere from time to time but it
> never really seemed to work right and I got frustrated and just headed
> home to Avid where it was safe and warm and everything worked.
>
> But then came the world where getting it onto tape was not the be all
> and end all of everything. Suddenly people wanted an 'medja file' or
> can I e-mail this 10second clip. I noticed I was having to do the edit,
> export a clip in which ever was the nice and quick codec and then re
> compress it in media encoder to what the client wanted. Seemed a bit
> clunky. One time a client wanted to 'just show' someone something we'd
> do so they shot it on their mobile phone and sent it that way.
>
> So I moved on to Premier.. Same client a few months later wanted to do
> the same thing, the phone came out.. Hold on I said... Click, click,
> tap, queue, export to a youtube preset. Carry on working.. A couple of
> minutes later, whilst still working, I get a noise and flick back to
> media encoder and pull up the uploaded youtube link.. 1080p unlisted,
> send that to your client (I say in the e-mail to their phone.)
>
> It is the ability for me to turn things around so quickly that lost my
> patience with Avid and threw me at Premier Pro. Sure it is an A$$ when
> discs need moving or when stuff gets lost, but you learn to deal with
> that in the ways we learned to deal with 'time of day' camera rolls shot
> over multiple days. You get on with it and come out the other side
> stronger.
>
> The final death knell for my avid was when I recently completed an 18
> camera theatre production using PP CC. Sure it was an uphill struggle
> on week 1. Things got lost, drives wouldn't serve up things fast enough
> and moving media around and getting PP to find it when it's not where it
> left it is tantamount to 'understanding women' (excuse the sexism but I
> think it's a good analogy :-) ) But the show has multiple media types,
> some of the inserts were shot 'crowd sourced' on mobile phones at daft
> frame rates, aspects and codecs. there is 4K material, HD, SD and (aside
> from playing all those streams at once) Premiere didn't even let me
> notice there were all these variables. It just got on with it.
>
> And now that show is done. Deliverables... Took me about 20minutes to
> set going (yeah still takes hours to check when they are done) but it is
> just the ease of in and out of things that has made me switch and I am
> now a paid up Adobe subscriber. I'm sure there will be problems with
> the software upgrading itself mid project (always a no no in my book) or
> some other thing to totally F U the day, but keep good daily backups and
> you'll only ever loose a day or two if it goes pear shaped.
>
> The only fly in the ointment is I have to keep an old version of CS5 on
> another laptop for when I want to digitise from my HDV camcorder :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marcus
> Big Ideas Productions
>
>
>
>
>
> ps. Tp really sink the knife in I actually used Audition to do the 5.1
> mix of the audio... What is the world coming to? :-)
>
>

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RE: [Avid-L2] Likely done with Avid

 

There is a pretty robust Premiere Facebook page. . It functions just like an L.
Probably more familiar to Millennials.
Alan MIller



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-------- Original message --------
From: "bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 5/28/16 9:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Likely done with Avid

Interesting you mention audio drop outs.  I have found when using Adobe Media Encoder CC 2014 to add pulldown to a QT Ref out of Avid with 16 channels of audio I will sometimes end up with entire tracks missing audio.  One time is was missing channels 4,6,7,15 IIRC then another time it was just channel 4.  Most of the time it's okay but this has happened at least 4 times to me in the last month.  I wonder if the underpinnings of that issue are the same root cause of what you are mentioning.

When it happens I don't even quit Adobe Media Encoder or even re import the original QT Ref.  I just reset the files status and re bake and all the audio is there.  I usually am doing other things in Avid, Photoshop and other apps while AME is baking but not things that would effect the QT Ref file.

There is a Yahoo Group:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Adobe-Premiere/conversations/messages
\
As for a Premiere L2 there is this Yahoo Group but it hasn't gained much traction over the last year or two.  Perhaps if some of the Avid L2 members joined it we could start to make it a more viable group.  Otherwise it seems the Creative Cow has numerous groups, or whatever they call it on the Cow, dealing with Adobe.  Personally I've never used Creative Cow much because the signal to noise ratio and just an overall feeling of it being a bit too commercialized.  This is not a condemnation of the Cow just my reaction to it.  The FCP-L was a fine complement to the Avid L2 when it came to FCP 7, due in large part to the cross pollination of members from this list. 


So I'll make a motion to the group that we should collectively add the above mentionedsite as  Premiere L2ish.  I tend to go to this group with all my questions as we all tend to speak the same language here and have a depth of varied experiences with an eye towards the entire post production process for broadcast and theatrical work.

Besides no one at the Cow has a clue how important OKI Dogs are to the post production workflows of real professionals.  ;-)


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <trevatpc@...> wrote :

I assumed from the topic title that this was going to be a list of work created on Avid products ;-)

In UK Freelance world Premiere is certainly pretty active, although broadcasters / facilities tend to be Avid.

Production companies like Premiere because production staff can ingest, string stuff together, organise ahead/instead of us 'expensive' editors. Avid they can never fathom. Usually we'll send an OP1a to grade & AAF to ProTools and get facility to do deliverables.

Sport OBs have replaced FCP7 (finally) with PPro. Avid is missing this market as they insist on Interplay. 

That said I'm doing French Open / Euros & (Zika dependent) Olympics and Paralympics on Avid/ISIS/Interplay.

PPro does have some issues (audio drop-outs being the major one) and minor missing features (head/tail fade, adding multiple audio dissolves, grading workflow). Could do with a Premiere-L too.

Does look pretty bad for Avid at the moment though

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Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

 

You're welcome.
I'm glad it worked.


On Sat, May 28, 2016, 09:17 Francisco <piluso77@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
Hi Agustin
thank you very much, I think its fine!
I sent a file to QC so I ll see....

thanks a lot!
 
Saludos F!



De: "Agustin Goya agustingoya@gmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Para: Francisco <piluso77@yahoo.com.ar>; "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Jueves, 26 de mayo, 2016 19:53:52

Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60
Hi Francisco,
Here's my recommendation:
Once you have your 23.976P Master, do a Mixdown and replace the video tracks with it.
Open de 60i project and open the 23.976 sequence.
Media composer will add a motion adapter to compensate the difference of speed.
Promote the motion adapter and select: Source: Progressive Output: interlaced 3:2 Pulldown mode: interpolated.
Render or do a new mixdown and you will end with a 60i compatible file (23.976 with 3:2 pulldown)
If you are worried about frames with mixed fields, what's perfectly fine in NTSC land as long as the cadence is consistent.
Hope this help.

On Thu, May 26, 2016, 19:30 Francisco piluso77@yahoo.com.ar [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Hello hello guys,

Well, I made some workflows that you told me and heres the thing...

I edited in 2398, Then Created a delivery sequence, open in a 60i proyect.
When you played you see a strange thing with the frame cadence... its like something strange with the fields... But when I export these Sequnce to a 60i file, its worst

I tried everything, doing mixdown in 24p, then open in 60i, I made QT ref then exported it, open 24p in 60i then exported, all ones with same issue.

Im thinking is I use some software like Episode or Carbon Coder to do the pulldown using a native 24p export in 24p proyect.

best regards!
F


De: Francisco <piluso77@yahoo.com.ar>
Para: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Lunes, 23 de mayo, 2016 10:58:15

Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

Thank you for every answer and your help!


I will try, thanks.

 
Saludos F!



De: "bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Para: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: Viernes, 20 de mayo, 2016 12:51:06
Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

 
Mr. Greg,
I don't agree this is a basic part of Avid.  The motion adapter yes but as I've been posting about my file deliveries of late with a 16 track XDCam50 .mov it's far from straight forward as there is no way to do it completely in Avid.  The double mixdown doesn't always work when you have a lot of audio tracks.  Anything over 8 and the XDCam50 .mxf won't work with it's 8 track audio limitation.

Then there is the gotcha of having AME add pulldown at 3:2 and only making NDF time code files from the 3.976 source.  This aren't as straight forward as they seem.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

There are 2 basic route in avid, then plenty of derivatives.    

Best is to edit and finish entirely in 2398, video mix down, then open that in a 60i project.  Media composer will add 3:2 pulls down, and you render that out to your deliverables.

The other 'common' way is to load your original material into a 2398 project, then open those source bins in a 60i (called 5994i in mc) project, and edit there.  Again, mc will handle the conversion on the fly.

Even your buyer will prefer the first method, because the pull down cadence will be consistent,  and your EDITOR'S definitely will, because progressive is easier for editing.  

The original point of 2398 is that it emulated film workflow, and consequently the methods for conversion to other formats had already been developed and proven.

This is such a basic part of working in media composer, I'm concerned that you're either trolling us- or need to hire a qualified editor!

________________________
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com

On May 20, 2016, at 07:19, Francisco piluso77@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Hi everyone,

We are shooting for a tv show in 1080p 23.98, and we need to make a file base delivery in 1080i 60 xdcam hd or quicktime.


Any of you knows how to do it?

best regards everyone!

 
Saludos F!






--
Agustín Goya
(Sent from a mobile device, please excuse any typo)


--

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Re: [Avid-L2] Likely done with Avid

 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <gen@...> wrote :
" Things got lost, drives wouldn't serve up things fast enough
and moving media around and getting PP to find it when it's not where it
left it is tantamount to 'understanding women' (excuse the sexism but I
think it's a good analogy :-) )"


My wife has been editing as long as I have and for the last 15ish years she has been Avid.  For the last 23 years she hasn't gone "Offline" once, especially when it comes to chores lists.  Had she been using Premiere or FCP I don't think I could make the same claim.

To your points about Adobe Media Encoder I have now incorporated AME into my Avid workflows using QT Ref out of Avid into AME and it's working well for my needs.  Not refuting your experience or preference just saying I can stay all warm and fuzzy in Avid and go the AME route so far.

4K may be the one area I have to jump ship but so far I'm making it work too on my first project.  There is a part of me that is starting to realize all my work arounds are beginning to feel like changing deck chairs on the Titanic.  ;-)

---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <gen@...> wrote :

Hi All,

Been reading this thread with great interest.

I've been using Avid since the very early days, after I moved on from
D-Vision! But I left the employed post production environment almost
10years ago just when HD was gathering momentum. But in my freelance
roles I continued using Avids. Certainly not broke so no need to fix it.

I twiddled and dipped my toes with Premiere from time to time but it
never really seemed to work right and I got frustrated and just headed
home to Avid where it was safe and warm and everything worked.

But then came the world where getting it onto tape was not the be all
and end all of everything. Suddenly people wanted an 'medja file' or
can I e-mail this 10second clip. I noticed I was having to do the edit,
export a clip in which ever was the nice and quick codec and then re
compress it in media encoder to what the client wanted. Seemed a bit
clunky. One time a client wanted to 'just show' someone something we'd
do so they shot it on their mobile phone and sent it that way.

So I moved on to Premier.. Same client a few months later wanted to do
the same thing, the phone came out.. Hold on I said... Click, click,
tap, queue, export to a youtube preset. Carry on working.. A couple of
minutes later, whilst still working, I get a noise and flick back to
media encoder and pull up the uploaded youtube link.. 1080p unlisted,
send that to your client (I say in the e-mail to their phone.)

It is the ability for me to turn things around so quickly that lost my
patience with Avid and threw me at Premier Pro. Sure it is an A$$ when
discs need moving or when stuff gets lost, but you learn to deal with
that in the ways we learned to deal with 'time of day' camera rolls shot
over multiple days. You get on with it and come out the other side
stronger.

The final death knell for my avid was when I recently completed an 18
camera theatre production using PP CC. Sure it was an uphill struggle
on week 1. Things got lost, drives wouldn't serve up things fast enough
and moving media around and getting PP to find it when it's not where it
left it is tantamount to 'understanding women' (excuse the sexism but I
think it's a good analogy :-) ) But the show has multiple media types,
some of the inserts were shot 'crowd sourced' on mobile phones at daft
frame rates, aspects and codecs. there is 4K material, HD, SD and (aside
from playing all those streams at once) Premiere didn't even let me
notice there were all these variables. It just got on with it.

And now that show is done. Deliverables... Took me about 20minutes to
set going (yeah still takes hours to check when they are done) but it is
just the ease of in and out of things that has made me switch and I am
now a paid up Adobe subscriber. I'm sure there will be problems with
the software upgrading itself mid project (always a no no in my book) or
some other thing to totally F U the day, but keep good daily backups and
you'll only ever loose a day or two if it goes pear shaped.

The only fly in the ointment is I have to keep an old version of CS5 on
another laptop for when I want to digitise from my HDV camcorder :-)

Cheers,

Marcus
Big Ideas Productions





ps. Tp really sink the knife in I actually used Audition to do the 5.1
mix of the audio... What is the world coming to? :-)

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With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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RE: [Avid-L2] Likely done with Avid

 

Interesting you mention audio drop outs.  I have found when using Adobe Media Encoder CC 2014 to add pulldown to a QT Ref out of Avid with 16 channels of audio I will sometimes end up with entire tracks missing audio.  One time is was missing channels 4,6,7,15 IIRC then another time it was just channel 4.  Most of the time it's okay but this has happened at least 4 times to me in the last month.  I wonder if the underpinnings of that issue are the same root cause of what you are mentioning.

When it happens I don't even quit Adobe Media Encoder or even re import the original QT Ref.  I just reset the files status and re bake and all the audio is there.  I usually am doing other things in Avid, Photoshop and other apps while AME is baking but not things that would effect the QT Ref file.

There is a Yahoo Group:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Adobe-Premiere/conversations/messages
\
As for a Premiere L2 there is this Yahoo Group but it hasn't gained much traction over the last year or two.  Perhaps if some of the Avid L2 members joined it we could start to make it a more viable group.  Otherwise it seems the Creative Cow has numerous groups, or whatever they call it on the Cow, dealing with Adobe.  Personally I've never used Creative Cow much because the signal to noise ratio and just an overall feeling of it being a bit too commercialized.  This is not a condemnation of the Cow just my reaction to it.  The FCP-L was a fine complement to the Avid L2 when it came to FCP 7, due in large part to the cross pollination of members from this list. 


So I'll make a motion to the group that we should collectively add the above mentionedsite as  Premiere L2ish.  I tend to go to this group with all my questions as we all tend to speak the same language here and have a depth of varied experiences with an eye towards the entire post production process for broadcast and theatrical work.

Besides no one at the Cow has a clue how important OKI Dogs are to the post production workflows of real professionals.  ;-)



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <trevatpc@...> wrote :

I assumed from the topic title that this was going to be a list of work created on Avid products ;-)

In UK Freelance world Premiere is certainly pretty active, although broadcasters / facilities tend to be Avid.

Production companies like Premiere because production staff can ingest, string stuff together, organise ahead/instead of us 'expensive' editors. Avid they can never fathom. Usually we'll send an OP1a to grade & AAF to ProTools and get facility to do deliverables.

Sport OBs have replaced FCP7 (finally) with PPro. Avid is missing this market as they insist on Interplay. 

That said I'm doing French Open / Euros & (Zika dependent) Olympics and Paralympics on Avid/ISIS/Interplay.

PPro does have some issues (audio drop-outs being the major one) and minor missing features (head/tail fade, adding multiple audio dissolves, grading workflow). Could do with a Premiere-L too.

Does look pretty bad for Avid at the moment though

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this is the Avid-L2

.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Likely done with Avid

 

Tom,


Have you ever cut anything for any length of time with FCPX? IMHO, to say it's like iMovie is a bit of a knee-jerk comment that doesn't match the facts. X is pretty complex once you get past the initial level. There's a lot of precision and strong database management. If anything, it's optimized for fast cutting.

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it is quite capable and there are plenty of network broadcast entities around the world that have and are adopting it. And after all, doesn't every NLE developer impose limitations and a design that determines how they want us to work?

- Oliver

Oliver Peters - editor | colorist

FCP X's layout and terminology is so amateurish and deplorable it's a joke. It reminds me of Newscutter another
misfire. Screw Apple and their attitude that's the way we should work. It's iMovie on steroids and that ain't saying much....


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With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

 

Hi Agustin
thank you very much, I think its fine!
I sent a file to QC so I ll see....

thanks a lot!
 
Saludos F!



De: "Agustin Goya agustingoya@gmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Para: Francisco <piluso77@yahoo.com.ar>; "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Jueves, 26 de mayo, 2016 19:53:52
Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

 
Hi Francisco,
Here's my recommendation:
Once you have your 23.976P Master, do a Mixdown and replace the video tracks with it.
Open de 60i project and open the 23.976 sequence.
Media composer will add a motion adapter to compensate the difference of speed.
Promote the motion adapter and select: Source: Progressive Output: interlaced 3:2 Pulldown mode: interpolated.
Render or do a new mixdown and you will end with a 60i compatible file (23.976 with 3:2 pulldown)
If you are worried about frames with mixed fields, what's perfectly fine in NTSC land as long as the cadence is consistent.
Hope this help.

On Thu, May 26, 2016, 19:30 Francisco piluso77@yahoo.com.ar [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Hello hello guys,

Well, I made some workflows that you told me and heres the thing...

I edited in 2398, Then Created a delivery sequence, open in a 60i proyect.
When you played you see a strange thing with the frame cadence... its like something strange with the fields... But when I export these Sequnce to a 60i file, its worst

I tried everything, doing mixdown in 24p, then open in 60i, I made QT ref then exported it, open 24p in 60i then exported, all ones with same issue.

Im thinking is I use some software like Episode or Carbon Coder to do the pulldown using a native 24p export in 24p proyect.

best regards!
F


De: Francisco <piluso77@yahoo.com.ar>
Para: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Lunes, 23 de mayo, 2016 10:58:15

Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

Thank you for every answer and your help!


I will try, thanks.

 
Saludos F!



De: "bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Para: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: Viernes, 20 de mayo, 2016 12:51:06
Asunto: Re: [Avid-L2] 1080P 23.98 to 1080i 60

 
Mr. Greg,
I don't agree this is a basic part of Avid.  The motion adapter yes but as I've been posting about my file deliveries of late with a 16 track XDCam50 .mov it's far from straight forward as there is no way to do it completely in Avid.  The double mixdown doesn't always work when you have a lot of audio tracks.  Anything over 8 and the XDCam50 .mxf won't work with it's 8 track audio limitation.

Then there is the gotcha of having AME add pulldown at 3:2 and only making NDF time code files from the 3.976 source.  This aren't as straight forward as they seem.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

There are 2 basic route in avid, then plenty of derivatives.    

Best is to edit and finish entirely in 2398, video mix down, then open that in a 60i project.  Media composer will add 3:2 pulls down, and you render that out to your deliverables.

The other 'common' way is to load your original material into a 2398 project, then open those source bins in a 60i (called 5994i in mc) project, and edit there.  Again, mc will handle the conversion on the fly.

Even your buyer will prefer the first method, because the pull down cadence will be consistent,  and your EDITOR'S definitely will, because progressive is easier for editing.  

The original point of 2398 is that it emulated film workflow, and consequently the methods for conversion to other formats had already been developed and proven.

This is such a basic part of working in media composer, I'm concerned that you're either trolling us- or need to hire a qualified editor!

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On May 20, 2016, at 07:19, Francisco piluso77@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Hi everyone,

We are shooting for a tv show in 1080p 23.98, and we need to make a file base delivery in 1080i 60 xdcam hd or quicktime.


Any of you knows how to do it?

best regards everyone!

 
Saludos F!






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