Saturday, January 23, 2016

[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Drive 10 compatibility with Avid

 

We've always had problems with Mac Drive and Avid. If there is a mediafolder on the Mac mounted drive, we get weird assertion errors while in Media Composer. It happens when Avid tries to update the media database but it isn't an obvious drive error.

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[Avid-L2] First Feature Film Shot Entirely on Prius Backup Camera is a Real Game Changer

 

Sometimes a camera comes along that changes everything you thought you knew about filmmaking.

First Feature Film Shot Entirely on Prius Backup Camera is a Real Game Changer

 



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[Avid-L2] Re: DNxHR and HD

 

Why try and force DNxHR?
I did some calculations and I'm pretty sure its basically DNx extended to greater than HD resolution. Compression etc is the same or very similar as DNx
So DNxHR if you are over HD res stick with DNx for HD res.
No need or gain in trying to force DNxHR at HD res.

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Friday, January 22, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] remote client viewing?

 

Thank you very much for the detailed writeup. I see the 500 on Amazon for $230.

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 8:59 PM, blafarm@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> One last point that I actually mentioned in my first post on this subject -- but not in my last verbose monologue:
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> Due to not wanting to risk running afoul of content owner DRM requirements, Slingbox encrypts all video streams in a manner that only allows one client app to view a stream at any one time. That means you can forget about simultaneously multicasting a single stream to multiple clients -- whether they are in adjacent offices within the same office building -- or geographically spread throughout the world. The only way for multiple individuals to view a particular stream is to ask them all to sit in the same room in front of the same client playback device.
>
> Slingbox is a point-to-point solution -- it is a consumer device that is designed to be used by individuals who want to watch media on their home systems -- while they are away from home (think local football games, local TV shows, DVR recordings). As such, Slingbox has limited the video stream playback to only one player app -- and they encrypt that stream it so that it cannot be compromised or hijacked -- and so they cannot be accused of rebroadcasting content that they do not own the rights to.
>
> While the viewer limitation can easily be viewed as a liability for some workflows -- the encryption feature is actually an asset. Few live streaming services allow for an easily administered encryption methodology. Yes, some of them offer a password protected player page -- but that's not real the problem. An unencrypted video stream traversing the public Internet can be viewed at any node that it hits -- unless, of course, it lives within a SSL page or is tunneled th rough a VPN. The fact that this cheap solution offers adaptive bit rate playback -- as well as automatic stream encryption (without any administration for either feature) is actually a good thing -- if you can work within its limitations.
>
> Again, its not an enterprise level solution -- but for the money, it can offer some interesting options if you have the need for (near) real time collaboration.
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[Avid-L2] Re: DNxHR and HD

 

Funny you mention that because somebody did too when I was doing my tests. But nope: when you're in a HD project, you don't get access to the DNxHR resolutions in the Media Creation settings.


P.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I ran into a similar situation a while back where when I wanted to export to prores 59.94i from a 23.976 mixdown but Avid would only let me go to DNX.  Turns out Mark or Dom I think pointed me to the media creations render setting which I had forgotten I had set to DNX.  Switching that to ProRes and I could do my export.  I wonder if you check media creations under render and see what it's set to perhaps that might open up a door way to what you need.


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[Avid-L2] Mac Drive 10 compatibility with Avid

 

L’ers

 

I’ve had customers running versions 8 & 9 of Mac Drive with no issues.

 

Earlier this week, I had one system that when the new v10 was installed and enabled, the Avid software (8.4.2) would freeze.  But other systems in the shop seemed to work fine.

 

Anyone else seen this?

 

Dave Spraker

 

Principal, spraker.tv

Shared Storage Solutions  |  Consulting  |  Sports Audio

www.spraker.tv

 

Northwest Territory Manager, Western Rep Associates

Broadcast and AV Manufacturer’s Representative

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New Address:

1100 SE 12th Ave., Suite #312

Portland, OR 97214

 

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[Avid-L2] PhraseFind/ScriptSync update

 

Re-posting Marianna’s msg on the Avid Forum. Quoted msg follws:

 

Latest scoop..........

Product Management communicated with Nexidia the other day regarding PhraseFind and ScriptSync.  As you all know by now......  we have been working for a while now with Nexidia to integrate their technology into the MediaCentral Platform. Contract negotiations back and forth in an attempt to get it done.... however......  recently Nexidia technology was purchased by Nice.     http://www.nice.com/engage/press-releases/NICE-and-Nexidia-to-Join-Forces-Creating-a-Customer-Analytics-Powerhouse-405 With that said, Product Management and Business Development have been in contact with the Media and Entertainment leaders at Nexidia and are assessing what this means for our partnership moving forward.   I have been told that both Avid and Nexidia's Media division are strongly interested in an new agreement to bring back PhraseFind and ScriptSync and will continue to work together in the coming weeks and if possible will bring something to market. Just another fly in the ointment but one that we think we can work with. Marianna

 

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POP Pictures Inc.

Orlando

 

 

 

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[Avid-L2] Re: DNxHR and HD

 

I ran into a similar situation a while back where when I wanted to export to prores 59.94i from a 23.976 mixdown but Avid would only let me go to DNX.  Turns out Mark or Dom I think pointed me to the media creations render setting which I had forgotten I had set to DNX.  Switching that to ProRes and I could do my export.  I wonder if you check media creations under render and see what it's set to perhaps that might open up a door way to what you need.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote :

So I did some test as knowledge on DNxHR seems rare these days.

If I switch my project to UHD, I can indeed export "Same As Source" in DNxHR - great.
BUT... my sequence is now exported as UHD - i.e. 3840x2160 - where most of my material is HD, and my delivery is HD too.

I tried to make a Custom Size project and make it 1920x1080 but the Avid spotted me trying to trick it and gave me only DNxHD resolutions as a reprisal action...

Back in my HD project, I was able to Ama Link my 4x3 footage (1920x1434) and shift up or down to reframe it within my 16:9 window.

So now I'm back to decision mode and I'm thinking about rendering the archive footage in ProRes HQ (bit overkill, I know) and Transcoding the existing original material from DNxHR to ProRes HQ. That way I'll be able to export ProRes material for the colorist.

Seems a bit complicated, but so far it's the only way I can see.
Happy to hear your experience with DNxHR if you have any!

Pierre


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :


P.S.:  I am very interested in all your DNxHR questions as I'm about to do the big 4K bend over on a project and am also researching the most efficient workflows to use.  The only thing consistent these days is change in formats and workflows.  Sometimes it's all just to much to swallow.   ;-)



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote :


Now the questions are: 

- How do I get the project to a DNxHR environment? Do I have to switch to a UHD project even though I'm delivering HD size, or can I just create a custom size project and make it 1920x1080? Or should I just keep my HD project and transcode the original footage to DNxHD?

- The original footage has a Color Effect added by MediaComposer (based on the camera LUT) but the archive footage is just regular video with no LUT. When I export the film for the colour grader, do I remove the Color Effect to go back to the washed out non-LUT footage? Or should I export two QuickTime files, one for the original material and one for the archive material?

- And most important: what is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow? ;-)


Thanks for reading!

Pierre

 

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[Avid-L2] Re: DNxHR and HD

 

So I did some test as knowledge on DNxHR seems rare these days.


If I switch my project to UHD, I can indeed export "Same As Source" in DNxHR - great.
BUT... my sequence is now exported as UHD - i.e. 3840x2160 - where most of my material is HD, and my delivery is HD too.

I tried to make a Custom Size project and make it 1920x1080 but the Avid spotted me trying to trick it and gave me only DNxHD resolutions as a reprisal action...

Back in my HD project, I was able to Ama Link my 4x3 footage (1920x1434) and shift up or down to reframe it within my 16:9 window.

So now I'm back to decision mode and I'm thinking about rendering the archive footage in ProRes HQ (bit overkill, I know) and Transcoding the existing original material from DNxHR to ProRes HQ. That way I'll be able to export ProRes material for the colorist.

Seems a bit complicated, but so far it's the only way I can see.
Happy to hear your experience with DNxHR if you have any!

Pierre


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :


P.S.:  I am very interested in all your DNxHR questions as I'm about to do the big 4K bend over on a project and am also researching the most efficient workflows to use.  The only thing consistent these days is change in formats and workflows.  Sometimes it's all just to much to swallow.   ;-)



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote :


Now the questions are: 

- How do I get the project to a DNxHR environment? Do I have to switch to a UHD project even though I'm delivering HD size, or can I just create a custom size project and make it 1920x1080? Or should I just keep my HD project and transcode the original footage to DNxHD?

- The original footage has a Color Effect added by MediaComposer (based on the camera LUT) but the archive footage is just regular video with no LUT. When I export the film for the colour grader, do I remove the Color Effect to go back to the washed out non-LUT footage? Or should I export two QuickTime files, one for the original material and one for the archive material?

- And most important: what is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow? ;-)


Thanks for reading!

Pierre

 

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Thursday, January 21, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: remote client viewing?

 

I had almost forgotten slingbox existed a LONG time ago when we had a live show sold to 5 countries we used to send a box to people in each place so we could check the broadcast output. It was fun watching Ukrainian tv instead of working.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM, blafarm@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

One last point that I actually mentioned in my first post on this subject -- but not in my last verbose monologue:


Due to not wanting to risk running afoul of content owner DRM requirements, Slingbox encrypts all video streams in a manner that only allows one client app to view a stream at any one time.  That means you can forget about simultaneously multicasting a single stream to multiple clients -- whether they are in adjacent offices within the same office building -- or geographically spread throughout the world.  The only way for multiple individuals to view a particular stream is to ask them all to sit in the same room in front of the same client playback device.

Slingbox is a point-to-point solution -- it is a consumer device that is designed to be used by individuals who want to watch media on their home systems -- while they are away from home (think local football games, local TV shows, DVR recordings).  As such, Slingbox has limited the video stream playback to only one player app -- and they encrypt that stream it so that it cannot be compromised or hijacked -- and so they cannot be accused of rebroadcasting content that they do not own the rights to.

While the viewer limitation can easily be viewed as a liability for some workflows -- the encryption feature is actually an asset.  Few live streaming services allow for an easily administered encryption methodology.  Yes, some of them offer a password protected player page -- but that's not real the problem.  An unencrypted video stream traversing the public Internet can be viewed at any node that it hits -- unless, of course, it lives within a SSL page or is tunneled through a VPN.  The fact that this cheap solution offers adaptive bit rate playback -- as well as automatic stream encryption (without any administration for either feature) is actually a good thing -- if you can work within its limitations.

Again, its not an enterprise level solution -- but for the money, it can offer some interesting options if you have the need for (near) real time collaboration.



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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: remote client viewing?

 

One last point that I actually mentioned in my first post on this subject -- but not in my last verbose monologue:


Due to not wanting to risk running afoul of content owner DRM requirements, Slingbox encrypts all video streams in a manner that only allows one client app to view a stream at any one time.  That means you can forget about simultaneously multicasting a single stream to multiple clients -- whether they are in adjacent offices within the same office building -- or geographically spread throughout the world.  The only way for multiple individuals to view a particular stream is to ask them all to sit in the same room in front of the same client playback device.

Slingbox is a point-to-point solution -- it is a consumer device that is designed to be used by individuals who want to watch media on their home systems -- while they are away from home (think local football games, local TV shows, DVR recordings).  As such, Slingbox has limited the video stream playback to only one player app -- and they encrypt that stream it so that it cannot be compromised or hijacked -- and so they cannot be accused of rebroadcasting content that they do not own the rights to.

While the viewer limitation can easily be viewed as a liability for some workflows -- the encryption feature is actually an asset.  Few live streaming services allow for an easily administered encryption methodology.  Yes, some of them offer a password protected player page -- but that's not real the problem.  An unencrypted video stream traversing the public Internet can be viewed at any node that it hits -- unless, of course, it lives within a SSL page or is tunneled through a VPN.  The fact that this cheap solution offers adaptive bit rate playback -- as well as automatic stream encryption (without any administration for either feature) is actually a good thing -- if you can work within its limitations.

Again, its not an enterprise level solution -- but for the money, it can offer some interesting options if you have the need for (near) real time collaboration.


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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: remote client viewing?

 

I'm in crunch mode, and will be for the next three or four weeks, but let me quickly address some of your questions:


The HDMI output of your I/O interface connects to the Slingbox HDMI input.  The Slingbox also has an HDMI passthrough output for connecting to a local monitor -- however, I have not tested the signal integrity of that output.  Slingbox is known to occasionally have problems with consumer-based HDCP -- but your interface will not be asking for that handshake -- so it shouldn't be a problem.

I have tested the Slingbox with a variety of Media Composer project types (raster sizes and frame rates) using Avid Mojo DX, AJA IO4K and AJA T-Tap interfaces, and have not had a problem.  However, one does need to remember that the Slingbox is a consumer device that expects to see at its HDMI input a raster/frame rate combination that would typically originate from cable boxes, satellite boxes, Roku boxes, DVD players and Bluray players.  For that reason, it is very possible that feeding it a 60 Hz computer graphics card output while running Media Composer in Full Screen Mode is possibly going to be problematic.  However, you could certainly test this.

The client see a full screen of the video, and in some instances, I believe local caching with a DVR-type control is possible -- although I have not played with this.  The client is also able to see remote controls for the consumer device that is connected to the Slingbox (cable box, satellite box, etc) -- but those can be hidden or disabled.  Obviously, there will be latency between what is generated by your editing platform -- and what the client sees.  And that latency will largely depend on the bandwidth and number of hops related to the connection.  You will want to test this.

The color rendition of the box is serviceable, as are the compression artifacts.  However, adequate bandwidth on both the transmission and receiving sides is critical to achieving good results.  The audio quality is not bad -- but it could be better.  I would qualify it too as serviceable.

Running the Slingbox within one's LAN is obviously the best possible scenario in terms of seeing what the box is capable of doing.  When I do that at the "High Quality" setting (which is selected by the client app) the stream usually consumes 5-6 Mb/s.  It's definitely not at the same level as a professional dedicated streaming device that allows for saturating the available data pipe -- but it isn't priced that way either. 

You have to remember that you are not using a CDN or a live streaming service that has multiple, global points-of-presence all connected by a fat backbone -- but you are also not paying for an expensive bucket of Akamai bandwidth or a paying for a monthly streaming account.  You are also not paying for multiple instances of Flash or Wowza Servers -- or saddled with the headaches of provisioning those adaptive streams.  I believe Google live streaming is free, but my clients would never allow Google to have access to their media -- password protected or not)

The Slingbox is registered with the Slingbox website and uses a form of NAT traversal to allow the device to be accessed from within the Local Area Network -- or externally from the Web.  This works well even when the Slingbox is behind one or more firewalls, however best practices suggest placing the Slingbox as close to your modem as possible.  I keep mine behind one level of firewall, but frankly, there's nothing for the outside world to hack -- there's not even an internal admin page.

Slingbox is a point-to-point topology with no cost basis other than the cost of the device -- plus what your ISP charges you (or your viewer) for bandwidth.  The number of hops that your stream takes makes a difference -- so it's best to minimize what little you can control. 

The best way to administer the device is to create a number of your own "Guest Accounts" and then selectively hand out those email/passwords combinations to individual clients.  You can then grant access to your Slingbox to those specific guests on an as-needed basis -- without the concern that an unauthorized guest will hijack a stream that they should not have access to (e.g.:  think Coke and Pepsi clients).

If this sound interesting, you might consider buying a Slingbox 500 from an Amazon-type retailer that will easily allow returns.  Spend some time with the box, test the audio and video quality with the Media Composer project types you are using, get some feedback from clients using the various platform apps, and consider how you would want to administer it.

As repeatedly mentioned, this is absolutely not a professional streaming server device -- not in any way, shape or form.  It is a dumb and inexpensive consumer device that might provide enough functionality to satisfy some clients looking for a more collaborative viewing experience.  At the end of the day, you will need to be the judge regarding its utility in your specific workflow.






---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <terrydop@...> wrote :

Thank you for the suggestions. I'm not familiar with Slingbox and curious about the specifics of how you set yours up. Are you taking the HDMI output of your interface? What does the client actually see? Does it register itself with a Slingbox service so the box can be discoverable from outside your network? For $300, it sounds like a potentially great solution.

-Terry

> On Jan 19, 2016, at 9:03 PM, blafarm@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I've experimented with a number of solutions, from expensive dedicated turnkey products coupled with major CDNs -- to labor intensive 'roll your own" solutions that require building-out your own web-based video infrastructure.
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> At the end of the day, the cheapest, easiest to administer, and most flexible solution ended-up being a Slingbox 500. The stream is encrypted (one viewer at a time), there are free player apps for every imaginable desktop or mobile device platform, and the system natively supports adaptive streaming -- which automatically throttles the stream bitrate to match the connection bandwidth.
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> Are there better systems out there -- hell yeah, there are!
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> But a Slingbox 500 is essentially a dumb appliance that can get the job done with little-to-no distraction from what you do for a living -- namely editing.
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Terry Barnum
digital OutPost
Carlsbad, CA

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