Saturday, December 5, 2015

[Avid-L2] Re: Okay so I did and Fing Avid Mixdown now I get the double video mixdown whammy?

 

So the audio stems didn't present a problem today on the direct export same as source once I eliminated any video tracks with 23.976 material including reference mixdowns and title slates.  Then it exports as same as source without an error.

Yesterday I think I had the audio issue when I was trying to export a QT ref of just the audio to be able to add discrete not interleaved audio to the ProRes Export and that's when I had to do audio mixdowns while in the 59.94 project.  I'm told the Avid interleaved direct audio export will be okay by the QC house so I don't have that hoop to jump through.  One small victory in a very convoluted workflow.  If it weren't for the reverse cadence that Adobe Media Encoder creates I'd prefer to use it outboard of Avid.  Leave the original file in it's native same as source form and let an outboard piece of software do the conversions just like hardware traditionally does.  That just seems like a cleaner workflow overall.

I recently saw a posting for an SR 5800 for $15K.  Don't know if it had all the options but as many have done in the past I really think a straight output to an SR deck and then use it to convert frame rate and recapture to the desired delivery format would be quicker and easier overall.  Then you'd always have the tape master for archive.  This would only be considered as those decks drop to ridiculous prices.  Really $15K would pay for itself in man hours spent baking files in no time at all.  But that would be logical and I doubt that's gonna happen.



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So on a tight turn around show I committed to the Avid mixdown workflow for frame rate conversion and I ended up getting burned by my own mistake.  I mixed down the 23.976 to ProRes, the delivery format, and then opened a mixdown only sequence in a 59.94 1080I project.   Pulldown was perfect etc....  From there I went to save as and in my haste okay'd through the part where it tells me the sequence is a non native format and it will make an Avid DNX220X instead of a ProRes.  I'm assuming and about to correct this by making a second mixdown to ProRes while in the 59,94 project and using that to save a same as source.  I'm pretty sure that will work but I've always glossed over the part in people's work flows where they mention a second mixdown.

In the past I've done this but the deliverables were to be Avid DNX anyways so I didn't flag the gotcha until now.  I know this is the best way to assure a solid file but what a double pain in the arse.  The other issue is because the audio stems are 23.976 I have to do audio mixdowns of each track while in the 59.94 project or I get the prompt I must select audio mixdowns in the export settings.  Is there a way to avoid that prompt in an elegant manner.  I could try reimporting the aaf into the 59.94 project but it's a 23.976 ProTools AAF so I doubt that would work.
 
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[Avid-L2] Okay so I did and Fing Avid Mixdown now I get the double video mixdown whammy?

 

So on a tight turn around show I committed to the Avid mixdown workflow for frame rate conversion and I ended up getting burned by my own mistake.  I mixed down the 23.976 to ProRes, the delivery format, and then opened a mixdown only sequence in a 59.94 1080I project.   Pulldown was perfect etc....  From there I went to save as and in my haste okay'd through the part where it tells me the sequence is a non native format and it will make an Avid DNX220X instead of a ProRes.  I'm assuming and about to correct this by making a second mixdown to ProRes while in the 59,94 project and using that to save a same as source.  I'm pretty sure that will work but I've always glossed over the part in people's work flows where they mention a second mixdown.

In the past I've done this but the deliverables were to be Avid DNX anyways so I didn't flag the gotcha until now.  I know this is the best way to assure a solid file but what a double pain in the arse.  The other issue is because the audio stems are 23.976 I have to do audio mixdowns of each track while in the 59.94 project or I get the prompt I must select audio mixdowns in the export settings.  Is there a way to avoid that prompt in an elegant manner.  I could try reimporting the aaf into the 59.94 project but it's a 23.976 ProTools AAF so I doubt that would work.
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Mojo DX Rack Mount Kit?

 

Possibly. I'll need to look on Monday

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 1:05 PM blafarm@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

That's going to be a tough one.


Not sure how far you'll go to 'feed that monkey' -- but there's a pair of overpriced ears on Ebay:


... Although you're probably the one that is already 'Watching' that auction.

 





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[Avid-L2] Re: Mojo DX Rack Mount Kit?

 

That's going to be a tough one.


Not sure how far you'll go to 'feed that monkey' -- but there's a pair of overpriced ears on Ebay:


... Although you're probably the one that is already 'Watching' that auction.

 





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[Avid-L2] Mojo DX Rack Mount Kit?

 

Does anyone have and extra set of the Mojo DX rack ears they would be willing to part with?  My OCD requires that I find them.

 

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Friday, December 4, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Steve Audette and Steve Hullfish - hopefully an informative combination

 

Just a thought... I always want to watch these things but never seem to have time - is there any chance old episodes could be hosted as a podcast I can just subscribe too and watch offline on an iPad at the beach over Xmas?

Best regards

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mad Max Sound

 

Fun article! It starts off OK, but then you get stuff like this:

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"The Fury Road story reminded me of Moby-Dick. The War Rig is the great whale and Immortan Joe (Hugh Keays-Byrne) is Ahab. We used that as a metaphor – Joe being this crazed captain with the intent on killing the War Rig at all costs. And that propelled all sorts of different sound motifs from a visualization standpoint to the sound work."

When the War Rig was attacked by the War Boys, Polecats or Buzzards, whale sounds were laced into the mix. "When you'd see a harpoon skewer the War Rig's tanker, we'd sweeten it with hump back whales moaning and growling. When liquid would burst from the truck, we would have a whale's blowhole shooting off," explained Mangini.
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And nice bit about actual collaboration with the composer.

jim feeley
pov media
word image sound

On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:41 AM, tim_mangini@wgbh.org [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Great article on the work my brother did with Scott Hecker as sound designers on Mad Max: Fury Road. Interesting bit at the end on how the audience numbers in screenings went up measurably after improving the mix. http://www.btlnews.com/awards/contenders-sound-editors-mark-mangini-and-scott-hecker-mad-max-fury-road/
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Re: [Avid-L2] Latest Art of the Cut interview is the best yet.

 

Thanks, just did interviews with Kirk Baxter (Gone Girl, Social Network, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and Dan Zimmerman (Mazerunner, A Good Day to Die Hard, Aliens vs Predator) then I've got interviews with Fred Raskin from Hateful Eight and Stephen Mirrione from The Revenant next week.


They've all got something special in them.

Baxter has NEVER done a long-form feature in Avid… he's cut TV spots in Avid, but all his feature films (a long and OSCAR WINNING list) are all in Premiere of FCP7. He has a TV spot house in LA that has eight or nine editors, all of which are on Premiere except for ONE Avid holdout who refuses to move.

My next TV guy might have to be YOU Alan Miller!

Steve





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Another home run. Keep them coming.
Alan Miller
 
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If you want to learn a LOT about editing, I have to say that Eddie Hamilton (editor of the latest Mission: Impossible movie) was a fantastic interview and gave a TON of great tips from the technical to the artistic to story.

http://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-with-eddie-hamilton-of-mission-impossible-rogue-nation

Hope you like it. I learned a lot and had a great time discussing the craft with someone so passionate and articulate.

Steve Hullfish

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Steve,
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On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:26 PM, "Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


If you want to learn a LOT about editing, I have to say that Eddie Hamilton (editor of the latest Mission: Impossible movie) was a fantastic interview and gave a TON of great tips from the technical to the artistic to story.

http://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-with-eddie-hamilton-of-mission-impossible-rogue-nation

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: [OT] After Effects Error Fun

 



Hi John,
Thanks for your help -- I appreciate it.
I replied to Michael. Here's what I told him:

Michael,
I got back to my system, just to try your suggestions.

My #1 (in first post) is totally operator error (me!). My memory was faulty -- you can tell it's been a while since I've been Ae. I just did some camera tracking, added a camera and a solid, and I *was* able to replace the solid with footage.
My #1 and #2 work only with your keyboard shortcut, but not dragging. Strange, I know… the Option key works everywhere else. But, I won't argue with success. THANKS for setting me straight on Shape layers, and for saving my sanity with that keyboard shortcut!

Have a great weekend!!
Cheers,
Benjamin



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I'm no AE operator but in the past I found when trying to duplicate existing lwr 3rd templates to make different verison in order to replace a layer element and have it maintain the effects properties I had to option drag or command drag the new layer element over the old on.  I was typing up new titles and then option dragging them into duplicate comps but a straight drag replacement would lose all the effects and matte relationships of the layer.  Option or Command dragging just replace the text and kept all the other adjustments etc...  Took me a while of googling to find it a while ago so now I'm rusty on the specifics.



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Calling all After Effects Gurus:

I'm on a Mac, and I'm simply wanting to replace footage by using the process of selecting the layer, and then Option dragging the new footage onto the name of the layer. In AE CS6, CC, and CC 2014:
1- If I have a Shape Layer, the new footage being dragged causes an error "After Effects error: layer does not have a source. ( 26 :: 335 )" pictured here: http://postimg.org/image/tyh38uuu5/).
2- If I use a graphic as the first layer, and then replace with another graphic, it doesn't replace. It just gets added as a new layer.

Lots of troubleshooting already… I even went so far as to uninstall CC 2014 and then reinstall it, obviously with no luck. My Google-Fu may be weak, as I wasn't able to find a solution that way. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Benjamin




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Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] After Effects Error Fun

 



Michael,

I got back to my system, just to try your suggestions.

My #1 (in first post) is totally operator error (me!). My memory was faulty -- you can tell it's been a while since I've been Ae. I just did some camera tracking, added a camera and a solid, and I *was* able to replace the solid with footage.
My #1 and #2 work only with your keyboard shortcut, but not dragging. Strange, I know… the Option key works everywhere else. But, I won't argue with success. THANKS for setting me straight on Shape layers, and for saving my sanity with that keyboard shortcut!

Have a great weekend!!
Cheers,
Benjamin

On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Michael Hancock <mhancockeditor@gmail.com> wrote:

Number 2 - yes, it's supposed to work and it should work.  When you're in front of your system again try the keyboard shortcut and let me know if it works.  You may need to trash your preferences?  Or  try starting the drag first, then hold Option.  Or hold Option then start the drag from the project panel to your selected layer in your comp.  I've been working in AE 2015 all day and it definitely works here, and it worked when I was in CS5.5, CC, and CC2014 (I skipped CS6). 

Replacing a shape layer - are you sure weren't making a solid and adding a mask to it to make it a shape?If so, that can be replaced.  I don't remember when they introduced actual shape layers, but they behave differently than masked solids.  But if you figure out how to make it work without precomping the shape layer please let me know.  It would be useful.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@contactben.com> wrote:

Thanks Michael!
I'll give it a shot later (not at my system for a while) and report back.
But #2 in my first post is still a stumper. That's supposed to work, and be replaced, and the new footage take on the attributes of the original… right?
My memory must be wrong, I could swear I was able to draw a shape and replace it with footage, and it would also take on the size of the shape. 

Thanks again for your help.
I'll report back, likely tomorrow.

Cheers,
Benjamin


On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Michael Hancock <mhancockeditor@gmail.com> wrote:

1.  This is normal behavior.  A shape layer only exists in a comp - therefore it cannot be replaced by footage from your project window. This used to be regular behavior with solids, too, before Adobe added the Solids folder in the project panel that is automatically populated with solids as you make them.  I'd like them to do the same with layers.  Workaround: Precomp your shape layer. Then you can replace the precomp. 
2.  Try it with a keyboard shortcut.  Select the layer in your comp you want to replace.  Select the layer in your project panel you want to replace your comp layer.  Cmd+Opt+/ should replace it.

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Calling all After Effects Gurus:

I'm on a Mac, and I'm simply wanting to replace footage by using the process of selecting the layer, and then Option dragging the new footage onto the name of the layer. In AE CS6, CC, and CC 2014:
1- If I have a Shape Layer, the new footage being dragged causes an error "After Effects error: layer does not have a source. ( 26 :: 335 )" pictured here: http://postimg.org/image/tyh38uuu5/).
2- If I use a graphic as the first layer, and then replace with another graphic, it doesn't replace. It just gets added as a new layer.

Lots of troubleshooting already… I even went so far as to uninstall CC 2014 and then reinstall it, obviously with no luck. My Google-Fu may be weak, as I wasn't able to find a solution that way. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Benjamin







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[Avid-L2] Re: [OT] After Effects Error Fun

 

I'm no AE operator but in the past I found when trying to duplicate existing lwr 3rd templates to make different verison in order to replace a layer element and have it maintain the effects properties I had to option drag or command drag the new layer element over the old on.  I was typing up new titles and then option dragging them into duplicate comps but a straight drag replacement would lose all the effects and matte relationships of the layer.  Option or Command dragging just replace the text and kept all the other adjustments etc...  Took me a while of googling to find it a while ago so now I'm rusty on the specifics.



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Calling all After Effects Gurus:

I'm on a Mac, and I'm simply wanting to replace footage by using the process of selecting the layer, and then Option dragging the new footage onto the name of the layer. In AE CS6, CC, and CC 2014:
1- If I have a Shape Layer, the new footage being dragged causes an error "After Effects error: layer does not have a source. ( 26 :: 335 )" pictured here: http://postimg.org/image/tyh38uuu5/).
2- If I use a graphic as the first layer, and then replace with another graphic, it doesn't replace. It just gets added as a new layer.

Lots of troubleshooting already… I even went so far as to uninstall CC 2014 and then reinstall it, obviously with no luck. My Google-Fu may be weak, as I wasn't able to find a solution that way. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Benjamin


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