Thursday, January 6, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Searching for Quality DVDs

Don't do the encoding with a DVD program. Do the encoding in Compressor or Squeeze.

Are you sure that you're seeing interlacing? There's something that can look SIMILAR to that, but actually WORSE, and that's when the resize of the file is done wrong.

Why use progressive if you shot interlaced? Don't scale in Encore. Check your files compressed files BEFORE you send them to the DVD program. Do they look good before you put them on the DVD? There are a bunch of places your file could be getting screwed up. going from 486 to 480 the wrong way will make weird "lines" in motion. That's not interlacing. That's a resizing issue.

Steve Hullfish
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co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer" AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
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On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:

> Maybe its the proverbial "pot at the end of the rainbow" but I am continuously searching to make a quality DVD from a sequence. I am never happy with the outcome. Sometimes the saturation blasts me out of the room, or I see interlace artifacting or just a general fuzz that looks like crap. I am hoping some of you master encoders can help. Part of the problem is getting my head around all the various parameters to deal with. I have access to DVDSP, Encore, AE, FCP and Avid. My Avid sequence is about 18 minutes, shot HD on AVCHD at a mix of frame rates. Edited the sequence at 29.97 at 1280x720p which is the size of most of the video.
>
> I burned two tests today, a QT reverence in Encore (used progressive frame setting, and scaled in Encore) and a Pro Res progressive QT export made in compressor (scaled to 720x480) and encoded in DVDSP. Both DVDs are SD. I will need to make both Blu-Ray and SD versions of this movie eventually. Both of the test DVDs look over-saturated, slightly fuzzy and I see interlace lines on motion shots. I know the SD will look a little fuzzy on the big screen but I am hoping for some improvement. I'm sure everyone has their own technique so I may be opening up a can of worms but: What is the workflow for the best quality final delivery? Should I export from Avid as animation QT and scale in AE, then take that QT to DVDSP? Should I be interlacing? Top or Bottom? Do I follow the standard Avid lower interlace program? Why is the saturation so cranked?
>
> Given the software I have access too, what path should I take Obi Wan?
>
> thanks
> Lou
> Lou Wirth Productions
> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> www.louwirth.com
> 415-924-9411p
>
>
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:27 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Searching for Quality DVDs

 

Maybe its the proverbial "pot at the end of the rainbow" but I am continuously searching to make a quality DVD from a sequence. I am never happy with the outcome. Sometimes the saturation blasts me out of the room, or I see interlace artifacting or just a general fuzz that looks like crap. I am hoping some of you master encoders can help. Part of the problem is getting my head around all the various parameters to deal with. I have access to DVDSP, Encore, AE, FCP and Avid. My Avid sequence is about 18 minutes, shot HD on AVCHD at a mix of frame rates. Edited the sequence at 29.97 at 1280x720p which is the size of most of the video.

I burned two tests today, a QT reverence in Encore (used progressive frame setting, and scaled in Encore) and a Pro Res progressive QT export made in compressor (scaled to 720x480) and encoded in DVDSP. Both DVDs are SD. I will need to make both Blu-Ray and SD versions of this movie eventually. Both of the test DVDs look over-saturated, slightly fuzzy and I see interlace lines on motion shots. I know the SD will look a little fuzzy on the big screen but I am hoping for some improvement. I'm sure everyone has their own technique so I may be opening up a can of worms but: What is the workflow for the best quality final delivery? Should I export from Avid as animation QT and scale in AE, then take that QT to DVDSP? Should I be interlacing? Top or Bottom? Do I follow the standard Avid lower interlace program? Why is the saturation so cranked?

Given the software I have access too, what path should I take Obi Wan?

thanks
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p


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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 7:49 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: Encore

 

I use CS 5 and particularly Encore on PC every day. I have found that for with AE HD projects for SD broadcast, I conform all the HD elements in HD and then open the sequence in a Premiere SD timeline and add titles etc. i have found that titles suffer badly with all in one downconverts. As for Encore, all video must be prepped beforehand in Premiere. If not , Encore just crashes if the video is used directly in Encore. Encore is the weak link (but is really good for DVD plumbing and menu adapting) unlike Adobe Media Encoder that is one of the best, cheap - free, easy access transcoders around. Particularly as it does not really on QT to transcode.

Hope this helps

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
>
> Terry
> When you use compressor to scale down, what codec do you scale with? ProRes?
>
> Lou
> On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> > Lou,
> >
> > Use Compressor to scale to SD. Then do the encode. Trying to scale and encode in one pass is what we found to be really nasty.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is anyone out there using Encore to make DVDs?. I have never been happy with the scaling quality of DVDSP when it comes to getting HD down to SD. Someone on the list told me the scaler in DVDSP is broken and they were right. Scaling in AE and then making the DVD was a huge difference.
> > > But I like how Encore interacts with AE and Photoshop and seems to have a little more control on the encoding. That said, I am just getting started and having some questions on the workflow. I got through Total Training Essentials but it does not go in depth. If you are a long time Encore user and want to help me out, please email offlist so I can fire a few questions at you.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > Lou Wirth Productions
> > > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > > www.louwirth.com
> > > 415-924-9411p
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Lou Wirth Productions
> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> www.louwirth.com
> 415-924-9411p
>
>
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[Avid-L2] [job] Assistant Editor West Hollywood

 

Assistant Editor West Hollywood

Seeking assistant editor for busy production/distribution company. Must be internet savvy with experience using Final Cut Pro and Avid Symphony.
In house position can be full or part time.

Please email resume in the body of your email, reel links, and contact info to Laura. No attachments please.

mail to: job-7bs7m-2145073095@craigslist.org

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 1:37 PM 0 comments

RE: [Avid-L2] XDCAM HD 422 50M

 

Hi there,

Yes we have done it quite a lot before without too much trouble. But this time tried on several machines and several different software versions and all failed.. Only FCp worked. Also tried importing as well as AMA and no joy

N

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Beck
Sent: 06 January 2011 16:39
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] XDCAM HD 422 50M

We've been using XDCAM 50 and Sony Pro Discs a lot, with 4.x and 5.x.
They can be a little finicky with AMA but overall have been very
reliable. You might want to reinstall the Sony XDCAM software and the
firmware on your PDW-U1 drive. I'm using XDCAM driver V. 2.3.0 and U1
firmware V. 2.450 on a Symphony 5 right now and it's working well.
--J.B.

Nigel Gourley wrote:
>
> HI there
>
>
>
> We are importing the above files into avid and we get this avid error.
>
>
>
> you-cannot-import-this-file-into-a-bin
>
>
>
> We can't AMA or import. It also doesn't work in premiere but does in FCP.
> They are proper XDCAmHD files from an XDCAM disc shot on a sony camera. They
> work in the sony clip browser.
>
>
>
> Also it doesn't work in v3.5/4 or 5!
>
>
>
> Internet search says it's an incompatible format, but it isn't . The only
> way we could do it was to import into FCP and export as something different.
>
>
>
> Any Ideas?
>
>
>
> N
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:54 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] XDCAM HD 422 50M

 

We've been using XDCAM 50 and Sony Pro Discs a lot, with 4.x and 5.x.
They can be a little finicky with AMA but overall have been very
reliable. You might want to reinstall the Sony XDCAM software and the
firmware on your PDW-U1 drive. I'm using XDCAM driver V. 2.3.0 and U1
firmware V. 2.450 on a Symphony 5 right now and it's working well.
--J.B.

Nigel Gourley wrote:
>
> HI there
>
>
>
> We are importing the above files into avid and we get this avid error.
>
>
>
> you-cannot-import-this-file-into-a-bin
>
>
>
> We can't AMA or import. It also doesn't work in premiere but does in FCP.
> They are proper XDCAmHD files from an XDCAM disc shot on a sony camera. They
> work in the sony clip browser.
>
>
>
> Also it doesn't work in v3.5/4 or 5!
>
>
>
> Internet search says it's an incompatible format, but it isn't . The only
> way we could do it was to import into FCP and export as something different.
>
>
>
> Any Ideas?
>
>
>
> N
>
>
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:38 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] XDCAM HD 422 50M

 

HI there

We are importing the above files into avid and we get this avid error.

you-cannot-import-this-file-into-a-bin

We can't AMA or import. It also doesn't work in premiere but does in FCP.
They are proper XDCAmHD files from an XDCAM disc shot on a sony camera. They
work in the sony clip browser.

Also it doesn't work in v3.5/4 or 5!

Internet search says it's an incompatible format, but it isn't . The only
way we could do it was to import into FCP and export as something different.

Any Ideas?

N

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:26 AM 0 comments

Wednesday, January 5, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Encore

 

If I'm scaling down to SD I use uncompressed.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
>
> Terry
> When you use compressor to scale down, what codec do you scale with? ProRes?
>
> Lou
> On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> > Lou,
> >
> > Use Compressor to scale to SD. Then do the encode. Trying to scale and encode in one pass is what we found to be really nasty.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is anyone out there using Encore to make DVDs?. I have never been happy with the scaling quality of DVDSP when it comes to getting HD down to SD. Someone on the list told me the scaler in DVDSP is broken and they were right. Scaling in AE and then making the DVD was a huge difference.
> > > But I like how Encore interacts with AE and Photoshop and seems to have a little more control on the encoding. That said, I am just getting started and having some questions on the workflow. I got through Total Training Essentials but it does not go in depth. If you are a long time Encore user and want to help me out, please email offlist so I can fire a few questions at you.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > Lou Wirth Productions
> > > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > > www.louwirth.com
> > > 415-924-9411p
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Lou Wirth Productions
> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> www.louwirth.com
> 415-924-9411p
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Way OT The reason wireless mics were invented.

 

And it's the camera guy that gets snowballed?!!

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:51 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Encore

Terry
When you use compressor to scale down, what codec do you scale with? ProRes?

Lou
On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> Lou,
>
> Use Compressor to scale to SD. Then do the encode. Trying to scale and encode in one pass is what we found to be really nasty.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone out there using Encore to make DVDs?. I have never been happy with the scaling quality of DVDSP when it comes to getting HD down to SD. Someone on the list told me the scaler in DVDSP is broken and they were right. Scaling in AE and then making the DVD was a huge difference.
> > But I like how Encore interacts with AE and Photoshop and seems to have a little more control on the encoding. That said, I am just getting started and having some questions on the workflow. I got through Total Training Essentials but it does not go in depth. If you are a long time Encore user and want to help me out, please email offlist so I can fire a few questions at you.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Lou
> > Lou Wirth Productions
> > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > www.louwirth.com
> > 415-924-9411p
> >
>
>

Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p


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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 7:57 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Way OT The reason wireless mics were invented.

 

Been there, done that. Doing a segment on wheel chair access in a
big Tokyo train station, running with a camera on my shoulder to
get ahead of our guest in her motorized wheel chair. Sound guy
with the shotgun mic running behind steps on the mic cable. Boom.
No sense of falling or anything. But reality has had an
instantaneous shift, I'm suddenly in some strange confusing world
that makes no sense... until I realize I'm flat on my back
looking up at the station ceiling which is a maze of ugly
ducting, water pipes, etc., etc. One of the weirdest experiences
of my life!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 1/6/11 4:17 AM, Steve Pomerantz wrote:
> The best part is that you can see it coming....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-6LH29YZk&feature=player_embedded
>
> Steve Pomerantz

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[Avid-L2] Re: Can't invert matte key?

 

So is there some under the hood reason why imported matte keys in 5.0.3.x don't have the option to invert the key like they do in version 4.0.5? Any thoughts?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Pomerantz" <steve@...> wrote:
>
> That did the trick.
>
> thanks John.
>
> Steve Pomerantz
> Senior Editor
> Digital Ranch Productions
> Sherman Oaks, CA
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve don't know if Eric contacted you offlist but if you promote the imported matte key you get the option to invert. I couldn't find the promote button at first because it has been moved one button to the left of the bottom right button in the effects window. The position of the promote button on ver 4.0.5 has been taken by the advanced keyframe toggle button and promote is one to the left of that on my 5.0.3.7"r". HTH
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Pomerantz" <steve@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Working on Symphony Nitris (Classic) v5.0.3 on an XW8400 running Windows Vista64 Ultimate.
> > >
> > > I'm onlining a sequence that was offlined on MC v3.1 that contains a large number of transitional effects using an inverted matte key. When I bring the sequence into the Symphony and the effects are updated, the inversion dissappears, and there is no checkbox to invert.
> > > I know I can invert it on import, but I'm way past that stage now, and would prefer not to go back at this point.
> > > Is there a way to do this anymore, or is it a new "feature" of version 5?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Steve Pomerantz
> > > Senior Editor
> > > Digital Ranch Productions
> > > Sherman Oaks, CA
> > >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Can't invert matte key?

 

That did the trick.

thanks John.

Steve Pomerantz
Senior Editor
Digital Ranch Productions
Sherman Oaks, CA

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Steve don't know if Eric contacted you offlist but if you promote the imported matte key you get the option to invert. I couldn't find the promote button at first because it has been moved one button to the left of the bottom right button in the effects window. The position of the promote button on ver 4.0.5 has been taken by the advanced keyframe toggle button and promote is one to the left of that on my 5.0.3.7"r". HTH
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Pomerantz" <steve@> wrote:
> >
> > Working on Symphony Nitris (Classic) v5.0.3 on an XW8400 running Windows Vista64 Ultimate.
> >
> > I'm onlining a sequence that was offlined on MC v3.1 that contains a large number of transitional effects using an inverted matte key. When I bring the sequence into the Symphony and the effects are updated, the inversion dissappears, and there is no checkbox to invert.
> > I know I can invert it on import, but I'm way past that stage now, and would prefer not to go back at this point.
> > Is there a way to do this anymore, or is it a new "feature" of version 5?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Steve Pomerantz
> > Senior Editor
> > Digital Ranch Productions
> > Sherman Oaks, CA
> >
>

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 4:00 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: Can't invert matte key?

 

Steve don't know if Eric contacted you offlist but if you promote the imported matte key you get the option to invert. I couldn't find the promote button at first because it has been moved one button to the left of the bottom right button in the effects window. The position of the promote button on ver 4.0.5 has been taken by the advanced keyframe toggle button and promote is one to the left of that on my 5.0.3.7"r". HTH

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Pomerantz" <steve@...> wrote:
>
> Working on Symphony Nitris (Classic) v5.0.3 on an XW8400 running Windows Vista64 Ultimate.
>
> I'm onlining a sequence that was offlined on MC v3.1 that contains a large number of transitional effects using an inverted matte key. When I bring the sequence into the Symphony and the effects are updated, the inversion dissappears, and there is no checkbox to invert.
> I know I can invert it on import, but I'm way past that stage now, and would prefer not to go back at this point.
> Is there a way to do this anymore, or is it a new "feature" of version 5?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve Pomerantz
> Senior Editor
> Digital Ranch Productions
> Sherman Oaks, CA
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: MCsoft 5.0.3.7 Mac OS 10.6.4 Can't Option Copy to Source Monitor?

 

With 5.0.3.7"r" option +C does copy to the source monitor. Life is good again.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Marianna's help I found the latest patch;
> http://www.avid.com/US/support/downloads/patches
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I don't think I have the "r" version I downloaded a while ago. But when I go to;
> > http://esd.avid.com/ProductInformation.aspx?id=7
> > All I see is 5.0.3 as the current version. Has 5.0.3.7 been pulled?
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Randall L. Rike" <indypix4u@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 5.0.3.7 or the newly released 5.0.3.7r (revised and released yesterday)?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Randy
> > > *************************************
> > > Randall L. Rike, ACI, ACSR Mac€Win€Unity€ISIS€DS
> > > (818) 406-8480 Mobile
> > > IndyPix4U@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: John Moore <bigfish@>
> > > Reply-To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:47:42 -0800 (PST)
> > > To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] MCsoft 5.0.3.7 Mac OS 10.6.4 Can't Option Copy to Source
> > > Monitor?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I double checked the help menu and according to it and my past experience on
> > > a mac option + C will copy a marked segment from the timeline to the source
> > > monitor with no need for clipboard contents.  I just tried and it doesn't
> > > seem to be working in MCsoft 5.0.3.7.  I can do command +C and then use the
> > > source monitor pull down menu to see what I just copied but option +C yields
> > > nothing in the source monitor.  Am I missing some new setting?  The help
> > > menu still lists option +C for macs to copy stuff to source monitor.  WTF?
> > >
> > > John Moore
> > >
> > > Barking Trout Productions
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> > > Studio City, CA
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[Avid-L2] Re: MCsoft 5.0.3.7 Mac OS 10.6.4 Can't Option Copy to Source Monitor?

 

Thanks to Marianna's help I found the latest patch;
http://www.avid.com/US/support/downloads/patches

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Well I don't think I have the "r" version I downloaded a while ago. But when I go to;
> http://esd.avid.com/ProductInformation.aspx?id=7
> All I see is 5.0.3 as the current version. Has 5.0.3.7 been pulled?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Randall L. Rike" <indypix4u@> wrote:
> >
> > 5.0.3.7 or the newly released 5.0.3.7r (revised and released yesterday)?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Randy
> > *************************************
> > Randall L. Rike, ACI, ACSR Mac€Win€Unity€ISIS€DS
> > (818) 406-8480 Mobile
> > IndyPix4U@
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> >
> >
> > From: John Moore <bigfish@>
> > Reply-To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:47:42 -0800 (PST)
> > To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] MCsoft 5.0.3.7 Mac OS 10.6.4 Can't Option Copy to Source
> > Monitor?
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > I double checked the help menu and according to it and my past experience on
> > a mac option + C will copy a marked segment from the timeline to the source
> > monitor with no need for clipboard contents.  I just tried and it doesn't
> > seem to be working in MCsoft 5.0.3.7.  I can do command +C and then use the
> > source monitor pull down menu to see what I just copied but option +C yields
> > nothing in the source monitor.  Am I missing some new setting?  The help
> > menu still lists option +C for macs to copy stuff to source monitor.  WTF?
> >
> > John Moore
> >
> > Barking Trout Productions
> >
> > Studio City, CA
> >
> > bigfish@ <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>
> >
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