Ok John, I'll bite. Yes, bars & tone are now an option for me.
4 weeks ago I shot a performance event on location for a 3-hour prime-time PBS special. We had a full-blown truck plus a B-unit truck & recorded 5 iso'd cameras plus a switched line feed (6 streams) over two nights for a total of 72 hours of orignal video. We're now cutting offline (though at full HD resolution in DNxHD 145) on our desktops with MC7. We'll finish our video at a commercial facility where we'll also do our audio mixes and our captioning.
We're not using color bars in our offline. (There are color bars on our files but we don't use them.) We won't send color bars to the finishing facility with our consolidated media. When we deliver our broadcast masters to PBS they will have "house" bars but those have no relation to camera original bars.
What counts is that:
1) Our cameras were impeccably shaded by an expert video guy.
2) Our video feeds were properly recorded.
3) We have a unity-level digital path from recorder, through offline to online, to final file delivery to PBS.
4) We have good eyes plus tools to measure and adjust video if & when needed. (And yes, I have an arrowhead display constantly showing during online.)
As long as I have these, I have zero need for color bars.
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:05 AM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The time code can match? But they are different cameras shooting at the same time, how could they all possibly have the same time code? What is this voodoo magic you speak of? ;-) Come to think of it that could be a time saver, Hmmmmm matching time code or color bars tough choice.
---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote :Next you'll want matching timecode.On 19 Dec 2014, at 2:37 am, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Working on a network show with major talent. Line cut and iso's recorded to XDCam. Everything looks good albeit a tad hot for a stage show with a full production crew. My media was ama transcoded to Dnx 220 so just to be safe I ama link back to the XDCam material and sure enough it's hot from the source. Nothing I wouldn't expect from a typical field camera type shoot but this is a full production crew with line feed and isos. I go to the top of the clips and I can't find any bars and tone? Now I do realize that our digital world is more stable with levels but with all the transcoding etc... when did putting bars and tone at the head of program and iso feeds become an option that can be skipped with a full network production crew. I'm just a little saddened by a lack of technical discipline of the most basic nature. Am I just being cranky to think bars and tone are part of the price of admission with a full tilt production crew? I do realize quite often the tape ops etc... on production trucks will record router bars which may not be perfect but at least they make the effort to give the rest of the food chain a starting point. Oh well back to the waveform, or should I just through on the legalizer and call it a day? ;-(John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
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