Re: [Avid-L2] Transcoding Gotcha I found out the hard way with Convert Audio Checkbox

The 'Source Path' bin column is pretty handy, too.


On 11 Feb 2013, at 00:35, Michael Brockington wrote:

> I've given up on adding tape names to AMA linked clips, although I do
> typically add a custom column to track the card name, just in case.
>
> I could be wrong, but I think in earlier versions of Avid, timeline dupe
> detection didn't work unless there was a tape name associated with a
> clip. Adding tape names could also help disambiguating duplicate clip
> names.
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
> On 13-02-10 1:55 PM, Mark Spano wrote:
> > Am I in the minority? I've never added a tape name to any AMA linked
> > material and I've never had a problem relinking. If the AMA material comes
> > from different cards, I just keep those as separate bins. I understand the
> > want to give everything a tape name, but I don't, and it's never bitten me.
> > Seems like a lot of extra work and hassle to add tape names to things that
> > were never tapes.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:31 PM, johnrobmoore bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> My understanding is after adding tape names to the ama clips if you later
> >> go back and remount the ama volume to a new bin you have to manually readd
> >> the tape name to the clips before relinking. Usually if you have the
> >> original ama bin with the tape names already added and you have the
> >> original source volume mounted and open Avid that bin and the clips with
> >> tape names already will be online. Of course the nebulous nature of ama
> >> doesn't always play fair which I'm learning on this project. Just another
> >> reminder when I don't get involved in this side of the work I really miss
> >> out on finding all the traps and hurdles there are. It renews my
> >> appreciation for the AEs who stay on top of this stuff and make it work.
> >> Unfortunately I find many AEs just link and go and then manually overcut
> >> later when things aren't working. I've seen huge cluster flops of late all
> >> due to a lack of proper preparation of ama material.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington wrote:
> >>> Maybe this has changed, but at one point I found that if you assign
> >>> tapenames to AMA clips and then relink the AMA clips, it erases the tape
> >>> names. You don't have to specifically choose to relink AMA clips, it
> >>> also happens if you use AMA to open the same folder of clips in a
> >>> different bin for instance. I imagine that if you've set up AMA so that
> >>> changes in the folder of AMA clips cause a rescan, then any change to
> >>> the disk folder would also be sufficient to wipe your tapenames.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> --Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13-02-10 12:03 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >>>> Well this morning with a clearer head I'm back at the so called one
> >>>> button process that just happens over night by itself NOT!!! I don't
> >>>> know if I missed them or they were lost but now several of the reels,
> >>>> uh Cards, don't have Tape Names that I thought I put in. Even going
> >>>> back to the original ama bins doesn't have them so F me skipping I
> >>>> probably messed up there. Also a couple clips have lost there audio.
> >>>> Oh well 2 out of 400 plus isn't so bad and the audio is there when I
> >>>> relink to the original ama clips.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now here's the new kicker Roger. I found in redoing the clips with
> >>>> missing audio when I do the original ama transcode to DNX 220 I didn't
> >>>> have to check the Convert Audio box and the audio came accross on the
> >>>> new clips. It is only when I later go to transcode the DNX 220 to DNX
> >>>> 45 that I have to check the Convert Audio box. From this I figure that
> >>>> Avid handles the initial ama transcode to DNX differently the
> >>>> subsequent transcode. That seems a little asymmetrical to me but what
> >>>> do I know? After all I didn't spend all night doing it wrong, uh oh
> >>>> wait..... ;-(
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> >>>> Roger wrote:
> >>>>> You do need to do this with a Transcode but not with a Consolidate.
> >>>> Needs a 'copy associated audio?' checkbox.
> >>>>> On 10 Feb 2013, at 09:05, John Moore wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> So on my ama transcoding anime today's sphincter tightening lessen
> >>>> is when transcoding to a lower resolution you need to check the
> >>>> Convert Audio check box to get audio included on the transcoded clips.
> >>>> Now my instinct was to just check the Convert Video and select DNX 45
> >>>> after all I'm just converting the video and doing nothing to the audio
> >>>> as far as conversion. Well I moved the new media over to the original
> >>>> project on the offline system and voila video no audio. WTF. Turns out
> >>>> the Convert Audio Checkbox actually enables the audio to be part of
> >>>> the transcoded clips so checking it and leaving it at 48K for my
> >>>> sources is the correct thing to do to get all the tracks video and
> >>>> audio onto the new low res clip. Now here's the gotcha that caused me
> >>>> a moment of sheer panic. Without me realizing that the transcoded
> >>>> files were playing audio from the original files and not the new ones
> >>>> I'd created I figured I'd just delete my transcodes and start> > over.
> >>>> Well guess what the DNX 45 media was deleted along with the audio from
> >>>> the original high res media on the original drive. Ouch big time
> >>>> especially because this was the only source I didn't have original
> >>>> card media for. Fortunately I had previously copied the clips to a
> >>>> third drive so I was able to find it there and replace it back on the
> >>>> original drive. When I used reveal file I got a prompt the video and
> >>>> audio were on separate drives but when deleting the transcoded clips
> >>>> there was no such prompt or warning.
> >>>>>> The moral is to always check the convert audio box even if you
> >>>> aren't really converting the audio otherwise MOS will be your middle
> >>>> name. I'm sure this has come up before but it obviously didn't stick
> >>>> with me until tonight. Hopefully this will save someone else from
> >>>> having a massive tush pucker like I'm still recovering from.
> >>>>>> John Moore
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Barking Trout Productions
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Studio City, CA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bigfish@
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> With best wishes,
> >>>>> Roger Shufflebottom
> >>>>> +44 7973 543 660
> >>>>>
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With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
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