Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Transcoding Gotcha I found out the hard way with Convert Audio Checkbox

Am I in the minority? I've never added a tape name to any AMA linked
material and I've never had a problem relinking. If the AMA material comes
from different cards, I just keep those as separate bins. I understand the
want to give everything a tape name, but I don't, and it's never bitten me.
Seems like a lot of extra work and hassle to add tape names to things that
were never tapes.


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:31 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

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> My understanding is after adding tape names to the ama clips if you later
> go back and remount the ama volume to a new bin you have to manually readd
> the tape name to the clips before relinking. Usually if you have the
> original ama bin with the tape names already added and you have the
> original source volume mounted and open Avid that bin and the clips with
> tape names already will be online. Of course the nebulous nature of ama
> doesn't always play fair which I'm learning on this project. Just another
> reminder when I don't get involved in this side of the work I really miss
> out on finding all the traps and hurdles there are. It renews my
> appreciation for the AEs who stay on top of this stuff and make it work.
> Unfortunately I find many AEs just link and go and then manually overcut
> later when things aren't working. I've seen huge cluster flops of late all
> due to a lack of proper preparation of ama material.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this has changed, but at one point I found that if you assign
> > tapenames to AMA clips and then relink the AMA clips, it erases the tape
> > names. You don't have to specifically choose to relink AMA clips, it
> > also happens if you use AMA to open the same folder of clips in a
> > different bin for instance. I imagine that if you've set up AMA so that
> > changes in the folder of AMA clips cause a rescan, then any change to
> > the disk folder would also be sufficient to wipe your tapenames.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13-02-10 12:03 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > >
> > > Well this morning with a clearer head I'm back at the so called one
> > > button process that just happens over night by itself NOT!!! I don't
> > > know if I missed them or they were lost but now several of the reels,
> > > uh Cards, don't have Tape Names that I thought I put in. Even going
> > > back to the original ama bins doesn't have them so F me skipping I
> > > probably messed up there. Also a couple clips have lost there audio.
> > > Oh well 2 out of 400 plus isn't so bad and the audio is there when I
> > > relink to the original ama clips.
> > >
> > > Now here's the new kicker Roger. I found in redoing the clips with
> > > missing audio when I do the original ama transcode to DNX 220 I didn't
> > > have to check the Convert Audio box and the audio came accross on the
> > > new clips. It is only when I later go to transcode the DNX 220 to DNX
> > > 45 that I have to check the Convert Audio box. From this I figure that
> > > Avid handles the initial ama transcode to DNX differently the
> > > subsequent transcode. That seems a little asymmetrical to me but what
> > > do I know? After all I didn't spend all night doing it wrong, uh oh
> > > wait..... ;-(
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> > > Roger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You do need to do this with a Transcode but not with a Consolidate.
> > > Needs a 'copy associated audio?' checkbox.
> > > >
> > > > On 10 Feb 2013, at 09:05, John Moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So on my ama transcoding anime today's sphincter tightening lessen
> > > is when transcoding to a lower resolution you need to check the
> > > Convert Audio check box to get audio included on the transcoded clips.
> > > Now my instinct was to just check the Convert Video and select DNX 45
> > > after all I'm just converting the video and doing nothing to the audio
> > > as far as conversion. Well I moved the new media over to the original
> > > project on the offline system and voila video no audio. WTF. Turns out
> > > the Convert Audio Checkbox actually enables the audio to be part of
> > > the transcoded clips so checking it and leaving it at 48K for my
> > > sources is the correct thing to do to get all the tracks video and
> > > audio onto the new low res clip. Now here's the gotcha that caused me
> > > a moment of sheer panic. Without me realizing that the transcoded
> > > files were playing audio from the original files and not the new ones
> > > I'd created I figured I'd just delete my transcodes and start> > over.
> > > Well guess what the DNX 45 media was deleted along with the audio from
> > > the original high res media on the original drive. Ouch big time
> > > especially because this was the only source I didn't have original
> > > card media for. Fortunately I had previously copied the clips to a
> > > third drive so I was able to find it there and replace it back on the
> > > original drive. When I used reveal file I got a prompt the video and
> > > audio were on separate drives but when deleting the transcoded clips
> > > there was no such prompt or warning.
> > > > >
> > > > > The moral is to always check the convert audio box even if you
> > > aren't really converting the audio otherwise MOS will be your middle
> > > name. I'm sure this has come up before but it obviously didn't stick
> > > with me until tonight. Hopefully this will save someone else from
> > > having a massive tush pucker like I'm still recovering from.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Moore
> > > > >
> > > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > >
> > > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > >
> > > > > bigfish@
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > With best wishes,
> > > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > > +44 7973 543 660
> > > >
> > > >
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