This IS the Avid L2: RE: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode

Monday, March 23, 2015

RE: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode

Back in the days I had to deal with this I found that many decks would lock with as little as 30 fms of pre roll. Also allowing MC to run out the end of a clip without an end point would often result in a clip with a few frames of code beyond the actual end of the TC on tape. Thus resulting in a clip which could not be batched.

At the end of the day, do you need every frame from every take on every camera/tape? If not then mark starts and ends, capture and get on with life.

Pete O

POP Pictures

Orlando

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I believe the original posting said these tapes had time-of-day & needed to be grouped for multicam, so it wouldn't work to change the timecode.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Make a copy of the tape with fresh continuous TC and make that your source.

Jay

On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:48 AM, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

But none of these solutions actually do it!..

I want one file only that is a match of the tape in its entirety including the source timecode. I can't have multiple files and I can't have one file with the wrong timecode.

I suspect it's not possible but I wanted to check.

Nige

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Jamsync no problem.

On 23 Mar 2015, at 7:40 pm, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yes. I got it slightly backward. It's been over a decade since I've captured from tape now. The loss of time for pre-roll is on initial capture instead of batch capture. Either way you'd lose a few seconds due to pre-roll. Of course if this was linear editing, you'd still lose those same seconds unless you went for non-timecode control track pre-roll (WOW am I dating myself!)

Steve

On Mar 23, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm talking about the first capture, not a subsequent attempt at recapture.

With Best Wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
+44 7973 543 660

From: "Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015, 11:45
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode


That's kind of what I said.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:44 AM, "Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This will work but you'll lose as many seconds as your pre-roll is set to (is that English)? On a break, the system backs up to the start of the next good section of continuous TC and starts a pre-roll.

With Best Wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
+44 7973 543 660

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Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2015, 18:11
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode


Depends on your set-up I guess and your ultimate need for archiving or your desire for an "automatic" solution.

Back when I was cutting a lot of documentary footage, we certainly used the real timecode from tapes to capture directly into Media Composer. I haven't had a deck hooked up to a personal MC in - I don't know - a decade, but if you've tried this and failed, it could be that you need to go to your Settings>Capture Settings and mark the check box for Capture across timecode breaks. Make sure you've got the TC track selected in the Capture tool and Avid will grab the correct timecode as part of the file.

The trick with this method is that if you EDIT with this material and you use footage from the first few seconds, then BATCH CAPTURING those clips will be difficult because on batch capture then Avid will need to have continuous timecode for 3-6 seconds before the first frame you need. But the INITIAL capture of discontinuous timecode should include virtually every frame on the tape.

Steve

On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:53 PM, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Really how do you think you would do that?

N

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Sent: 22 March 2015 17:42
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Media Composer?

Steve

On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:39 PM, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We have a lot of tapes that we need to convert to files and they have discontinuous timecode. We want the capture to match the tape so just one clip per tape, but we want the timecode as well.

We could capture the timecode as an audio track but we'd prefer to have the file timecode match MXF preferably but QT at a push.

Anyone found capture software that does this?

NIge