I just confirmed that the Relax Coincidence Point checkbox is in the V. 5.5.3.7 deck preferences. There were only two 3rd party hardware choices for pre V6 IIRC. There was a matrox unit, that I think was monitor only, and the aja io express. The fact that the coincidence point is in 5.5.3.7 and not 5.5.3 makes me wonder if the blackmagic card would work with 5.5.3.7. I'd doubt it but it makes me wonder. Anybody tried that?
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> I'm downloading the 5.5.3.7 mac version now and I'll check for that. I forgot to mention the OKI Dog comes with OKI fried, seasoned or regular salt?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> >
> > I believe the 'relax' checkbox was added in a MC 5.5.3.x release. Not sure
> > which, but it definitely was added then. Worth checking the readmes…
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Awesome tip. I owe you an OKI Dog. I just checked my mc 5.5.3 and it does
> > > not have that setting in deck preferences but my sndx 6.5.3 does have it. I
> > > will try that tomorrow. Hopefully that will resolve the capture issue. It
> > > sure has the correct name for the job. I realize now I've virtually never
> > > dealt with tape on any V. 6 and above system. I've only used V.6 for it's
> > > Red Epic ama functionality so I have never seen that check box before.
> > > Learn something new everyday, if not several times a day.
> > >
> > > Now for bonus Techy points can someone explain what the difference in
> > > RS-422 protocol is between Sony and Panasonic that lets the Panny decks
> > > seemingly avoid this error? I have always thought the serial control
> > > protocol was basically standard and the the difference between deck
> > > protocols had to do with edit timing differences between various deck. The
> > > transport controls seem to work between panny and sony decks so some things
> > > are the same. With the Blackmagic Express software there is no deck type
> > > setting it just says vtr ok and captures frame accurately no muss no fuss.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Relax coincidence point detection is in Deck preferences, I believe. Try
> > > > checking that box and see if it's better. (not a console command, a
> > > > straight checkbox in Avid user prefs)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that I've swapped our Decklink 4K extreme it is now registering in
> > > > > system info and it works with the media express app and Avid Symphony
> > > 6.0.4
> > > > > on MacPro 12Core OS 10.8.3 BlackMagic Desktop manager 7.7 the latest
> > > one on
> > > > > the BM site. For some reason in Avid I can not capture or batch capture
> > > > > with in and out points or even just an in point with our Sony decks. We
> > > > > have a DVW-A500 and a BVW-70. Trying to capture from in house blacked
> > > > > tapes it will pre roll and roll up to the in point and then error out
> > > > > saying "coincidence point not found" or whatever the exact verbage is.
> > > I
> > > > > can however roll the machine and hit record and it will capture a frame
> > > > > accurate clip. If I hook up one of our Panasonic AF-D96 decks it will
> > > > > capture properly. I tried manually configuring the deck protocol to
> > > Sony
> > > > > when hooked up to the Panny deck and I started to get the coincidence
> > > point
> > > > > error. I also tried controlling the Sony DVW-A500 with Panasonic
> > > protocol
> > > > > and I got the coincidence point error. I have taken the digibeta out
> > > of 4F
> > > > > to 2F with no change. I have extended the preroll to 10 seconds and I
> > > > > still get the error. These are in house black and code tapes that
> > > captured
> > > > > fine with the Black Magic Media express app. I switched the capture
> > > > > setting from best available time code to standard time code and no
> > > change.
> > > > > I pulled the reference input off the Decklink 4K no change. I blanked
> > > all
> > > > > the Vertical Interval to avoid a VITC conflict.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the past I've seen cases where different Rosetta Stone devices
> > > worked
> > > > > for different brands of decks. For example an Avid all in one PC com
> > > port
> > > > > to RS 422 adapter would work with a Panny deck but not a J30SDI. It
> > > > > wouldn't communicate at all. In my current case it communicates but
> > > can't
> > > > > find a coincidence point when there is an in point or a batch capture.
> > > I
> > > > > trashed the .avs file in the project because I've seen that mess with
> > > batch
> > > > > capture before. This is a new install on a system that had the trial
> > > > > expire on Ver. 7 media composer. I uninstalled V. 7 and installed V.
> > > 6.0.4
> > > > > for a trial and then installed the Black magic driver desktop manager.
> > > > > Everything works as expected except for capturing from our Sony decks.
> > > I
> > > > > seem to recall someone mentioning a console command to relax tolerance
> > > on
> > > > > deck control recently but I can't seem to find that in the topics list.
> > > > > Anybody got any suggestions? And is anybody running the decklink 4K
> > > > > extreme with Avid and capturing from Sony decks.
> > > > >
> > > > > My next steps when I'm back in the room will be to try a keyspan and
> > > set
> > > > > the digibeta to read ltc only at the deck. I doubt the ltc only will
> > > have
> > > > > an effect because the BVW-70 tape I used had no VITC and it still
> > > couldn't
> > > > > find the coincidence point.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Moore
> > > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > > bigfish@
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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