Thursday, September 5, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: Symphony 6.0.4 with Decklink 4K Ext. can't find coincidence point on capture?

 

I'm downloading the 5.5.3.7 mac version now and I'll check for that. I forgot to mention the OKI Dog comes with OKI fried, seasoned or regular salt?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>
> I believe the 'relax' checkbox was added in a MC 5.5.3.x release. Not sure
> which, but it definitely was added then. Worth checking the readmes…
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Awesome tip. I owe you an OKI Dog. I just checked my mc 5.5.3 and it does
> > not have that setting in deck preferences but my sndx 6.5.3 does have it. I
> > will try that tomorrow. Hopefully that will resolve the capture issue. It
> > sure has the correct name for the job. I realize now I've virtually never
> > dealt with tape on any V. 6 and above system. I've only used V.6 for it's
> > Red Epic ama functionality so I have never seen that check box before.
> > Learn something new everyday, if not several times a day.
> >
> > Now for bonus Techy points can someone explain what the difference in
> > RS-422 protocol is between Sony and Panasonic that lets the Panny decks
> > seemingly avoid this error? I have always thought the serial control
> > protocol was basically standard and the the difference between deck
> > protocols had to do with edit timing differences between various deck. The
> > transport controls seem to work between panny and sony decks so some things
> > are the same. With the Blackmagic Express software there is no deck type
> > setting it just says vtr ok and captures frame accurately no muss no fuss.
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Relax coincidence point detection is in Deck preferences, I believe. Try
> > > checking that box and see if it's better. (not a console command, a
> > > straight checkbox in Avid user prefs)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now that I've swapped our Decklink 4K extreme it is now registering in
> > > > system info and it works with the media express app and Avid Symphony
> > 6.0.4
> > > > on MacPro 12Core OS 10.8.3 BlackMagic Desktop manager 7.7 the latest
> > one on
> > > > the BM site. For some reason in Avid I can not capture or batch capture
> > > > with in and out points or even just an in point with our Sony decks. We
> > > > have a DVW-A500 and a BVW-70. Trying to capture from in house blacked
> > > > tapes it will pre roll and roll up to the in point and then error out
> > > > saying "coincidence point not found" or whatever the exact verbage is.
> > I
> > > > can however roll the machine and hit record and it will capture a frame
> > > > accurate clip. If I hook up one of our Panasonic AF-D96 decks it will
> > > > capture properly. I tried manually configuring the deck protocol to
> > Sony
> > > > when hooked up to the Panny deck and I started to get the coincidence
> > point
> > > > error. I also tried controlling the Sony DVW-A500 with Panasonic
> > protocol
> > > > and I got the coincidence point error. I have taken the digibeta out
> > of 4F
> > > > to 2F with no change. I have extended the preroll to 10 seconds and I
> > > > still get the error. These are in house black and code tapes that
> > captured
> > > > fine with the Black Magic Media express app. I switched the capture
> > > > setting from best available time code to standard time code and no
> > change.
> > > > I pulled the reference input off the Decklink 4K no change. I blanked
> > all
> > > > the Vertical Interval to avoid a VITC conflict.
> > > >
> > > > In the past I've seen cases where different Rosetta Stone devices
> > worked
> > > > for different brands of decks. For example an Avid all in one PC com
> > port
> > > > to RS 422 adapter would work with a Panny deck but not a J30SDI. It
> > > > wouldn't communicate at all. In my current case it communicates but
> > can't
> > > > find a coincidence point when there is an in point or a batch capture.
> > I
> > > > trashed the .avs file in the project because I've seen that mess with
> > batch
> > > > capture before. This is a new install on a system that had the trial
> > > > expire on Ver. 7 media composer. I uninstalled V. 7 and installed V.
> > 6.0.4
> > > > for a trial and then installed the Black magic driver desktop manager.
> > > > Everything works as expected except for capturing from our Sony decks.
> > I
> > > > seem to recall someone mentioning a console command to relax tolerance
> > on
> > > > deck control recently but I can't seem to find that in the topics list.
> > > > Anybody got any suggestions? And is anybody running the decklink 4K
> > > > extreme with Avid and capturing from Sony decks.
> > > >
> > > > My next steps when I'm back in the room will be to try a keyspan and
> > set
> > > > the digibeta to read ltc only at the deck. I doubt the ltc only will
> > have
> > > > an effect because the BVW-70 tape I used had no VITC and it still
> > couldn't
> > > > find the coincidence point.
> > > >
> > > > John Moore
> > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > bigfish@
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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