Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Dealing with duplicate clip naming with AVCHD cameras.

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On Jan 23, 2013, at 8:10 AM, bouke wrote:

> John,
> Bourke is called Bouke (Pronounced as Bow (like from a ship) and CU (like in
> cunt))
> And, i've bad experiences with AVCHD wrapped in a QT container.
> I made something that does this, but Avid shows horrible artefacts.
> But i don't understand the original question (I'm late at this thread)
> Since Avid uses duration (and perhaps UMC filepath / name, perhaps even
> relative), what is the problem with duplicated filenames?
>
> Bouke
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnrobmoore" bigfish@pacbell.net>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:03 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Dealing with duplicate clip naming with AVCHD
> cameras.
>
> Well if you get the clips into .mov form then QT Change might help automate
> the clip renaming and or adding reel names etc... in a batch manner. I
> don't use it for this function but it seems that's one of it's biggest
> features for organizing clips from card and folders. If I'm wrong about
> this I'm sure Bourke will set me straight.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington wrote:
> >
> > Had a chance to do a bit of testing, and figured I'd report the results...
> >
> > Unfortunately assigning tapenames to AMA clips doesn't work for my
> > current project. From what I read, this doesn't work in projects with
> > film options enabled. Attempting to modify the source produces an error
> > message about having to unlink the clip first. If I do unlink and
> > assign a tape name, the clip can no longer be relinked back to its AMA
> > source.
> >
> > Clipwrap looks like a more robust solution for my purposes. Seems like
> > Clipwrap can rewrap the AVCHD streams as quicktimes (ie. no
> > recompression), while preserving timecode and dealing properly with
> > spanned clips. Those quicktimes can then be easily renamed to
> > incorporate a unique cardname, brought into Avid via AMA, and transcoded
> > as necessary.
> >
> > The Clipwrapped AMA clips don't play back smoothly on my system
> > (Symphony 6.0.3, OS 10.7.4, 2.24 GHz quad-core intel xeon, 24 GB RAM),
> > but once transcoded they appear fine.
> >
> > Has anyone run into any issues using Clipwrap in this way?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Michael
> >
> > On 13-01-16 11:31 PM, namyrb wrote:
> > > You shouldn't have any problems. If you do then you can give your AMA
> > > clips tape names when you get to the uprez/online stage and everything
> > > should link. Finished a show a few months ago, completely filebased
> > > while
> > > using tape names. That was on MC4. But like I said, you can give the
> > > clips custom bin columns.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Michael Brockington wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for this suggestion, Wilson. I did some testing, and while the
> > >> camera we are using doesn't work quite the same as yours, it does seem
> > >> like something similar will work.
> > >>
> > >> We're using a Panasonic AC-90. Here's a summary of how it behaves:
> > >>
> > >> 1. If the memory card is reformatted, .MTS clips restart their
> > >> numbering
> > >> from 00000.MTS
> > >> 2. If all clips on the card are deleted via camera menus, same thing --
> > >> .MTS clips restart numbering from 00000.MTS
> > >> 3. If the last recorded clip on the card is NOT deleted, all the other
> > >> clips can be deleted via camera menus, and .MTS clip numbering will
> > >> continue to increment from the last recorded clip -- so this is a
> > >> workable way to avoid duplicate filenames.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> --Michael
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 13-01-16 11:36 AM, Wilson Chao wrote:
> > >>> On my Panasonic GH2 (which shoots AVCHD) I never re-format; I just
> > >> "delete
> > >>> all" files. My clip names continue to increment, with no duplicates.
> > >>> On Jan 16, 2013 8:29 AM, "Michael Brockington" brocking@...> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> **
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How are folks dealing with consumer AVCHD cameras that don't allow
> > >>>> setting custom clip names or prefixes? Every time a memory card is
> > >>>> formatted, the camera starts capturing another series of identically
> > >>>> named clips -- "00000.MTS", "00001.MTS" etc.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If I AMA these clips into Avid and transcode, they appears to retain
> > >>>> timecode, but I think the identical clip names have the potential to
> > >>>> cause me grief when I try to relink to the original files. (Am I
> > >>>> being
> > >>>> too paranoid?)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Currently I convert such files externally, creating new DNxHD175
> > >>>> quicktimes, using Adobe Media Encoder CS5.5.1. These effectively
> > >>>> become
> > >>>> my new master footage. I batch rename the output quicktimes to add a
> > >>>> unique cardname prefix to the filename then AMA the hi-rez
> > >>>> quicktimes,
> > >>>> and transcode them to lower-rez DNx36 for offline editing. There are
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> few downsides to this approach:
> > >>>> 1. Large DNx175 files clogging up my hard drives
> > >>>> 2. Two transcodes instead of one is time-consuming
> > >>>> 2. Adobe Media Encoder doesn't appear to pass AVCHD timecode through
> > >>>> to its Quicktime outputs in any way that Avid can understand.
> > >>>> Discarding that info makes me nervous.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there a better approach?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there a utility that would allow renaming of clips within the
> > >>>> AVCHD
> > >>>> file structure without breaking the structure, for instance?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there a better software choice for transcoding that would at least
> > >>>> preserve timecode from AVCHD files in the transcoded quicktimes?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for any suggestions,
> > >>>> --Michael Brockington
> > >>>>
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