This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master

Sunday, January 20, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master

Actually, there is no PAL in HD...
And while i'm thinking of it, XDcam HD 50 Mbits is a very, very acceptable
codec for this...
(now i forgot what the Avid equivalent codec name is.)
And, i'm watching ripped Pirate Bay movies the last couple of days.
Horrible resolution, but looking fabulous when the content is good.
(except For a few dollars more, that i got in HD, restored version. Get it,
it's gorgeous.)

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Terence Curren" tcurren@aol.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master

PAL land.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington wrote:
>
> I have the feeling Bouke meant DNx220, since there isn't actually a
> DNx120, but maybe he will chime in to clarify!
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
>
> On 13-01-20 2:09 AM, bartekz wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Y'all,
> >
> > DNx 120 it is plus some decent drive space, Clipwrap and...
> >
> > Rip-a-dee-doo-dah!
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Robert Ferguson wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Bouke!
> > >
> > > I'm always trying to teach assistants the difference between
> > resolution and compression. Avid certainly doesn't help.
> > >
> > > I feel better now.
> > >
> > > Robert Ferguson
> > >
> > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:27 PM, bouke wrote:
> > >
> > > > First a bit of a rant, can we ALL (that means Avid) stop mixing
> > Compression
> > > > with Resolution?
> > > > (not typical for this thread, but had to vent something)
> > > >
> > > > for you, DNxHD 36 is full res at HIGH compression. It sucks for
> > delivery, no
> > > > matter the downconvert.
> > > > It will introduce a lot of compression artefacts.
> > > > Now, since you're from the PAL side of the world, you could
> > downconvert and
> > > > work in DV.
> > > > That will even be smaller, and way better quality, and will make a
> > fine
> > > > DVcam master
> > > > BUT, internet delivery is nowadays HD. 720x576 (and deinterlaced)
> > will NOT
> > > > be top quality for the net.
> > > > Even YouTube is doing 1080 nowadays.
> > > >
> > > > so, listen to everyone here, buy some drivespace, transcode to
> > DNxHD 120 and
> > > > work with that.
> > > > Any half decent transcoder you have laying around will do the
> > transfer.
> > > > Let your machine rip 24/7 and be done with it.
> > > >
> > > > ht
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bartekz" zbimages@>
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:01 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master
> > > >
> > > > all I have is my trusty Macbook Pro 4.1,OS 10.6.8, 2.5GHz, Intel 2
> > core, 4
> > > > GB RAM. From what I know 6.5 won't run on that. I can deal with
> > that, it's
> > > > the codec question that puzzles me. Is DNx 36 ok if there is a
> > down-convert
> > > > to SD-PAL.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Roger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is better than doing an import of AVCHD on an older system.
> > AVCHD
> > > > > import was a bit flaky.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Terence Curren wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have access to a second computer? Laptop even? If so,
> > install the
> > > > > > free 30 day trial version of MC 6.5 and use it to AMA then
> > convert all
> > > > > > your footage. Then take that to your 5.5 system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > , "bartekz" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -unfortunatly I am limited to MC 5.5.3...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > , Robert Lawson wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Avid added AMA support for AVCHD files in version 6.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > Rob Lawson
> > > > > > > > System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
> > > > > > > > CBS News
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 8:12 AM, bartekz wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear L2,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > here is my scenario:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am about to cut a half hour documentary from about 30
> > hours of
> > > > > > > > > AVCHD
> > > > > > > > > footage, shot on Sony FS100. I need to import into MC
> > 5.5.3 but I
> > > > > > > > > am not
> > > > > > > > > sure exactly what codec is acceptable for a master on
> > PAL-DVCAM
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > internet. I did a few tests and I can see the difference
> > in the
> > > > > > > > > detail
> > > > > > > > > between low-to-high data rate codecs, but will this
> > matter in the
> > > > > > > > > down-convert? My project will be down-converted for
> > broadcast in
> > > > > > > > > SD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since drive space is an issue for me can I:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -import at DNxHD 36 or Apple ProRes Proxy via FCP and
> > still be
> > > > > > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > > the final PAL master? The internet file will be
> > compressed H.264
> > > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > reason the lossy/offline codecs here are fine?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -or must I import at a higher data rate codec for some
> > reasons of
> > > > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > consequence?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -is Clipwrap ok for the conversion here? I believe MC
> > 5.5 can't do
> > > > > > > > > AMA
> > > > > > > > > then transcode, only import.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > With best wishes,
> > > > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > > > +44 7973 543 660
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