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Sunday, January 20, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master

PAL land.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington wrote:
>
> I have the feeling Bouke meant DNx220, since there isn't actually a
> DNx120, but maybe he will chime in to clarify!
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
>
> On 13-01-20 2:09 AM, bartekz wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Y'all,
> >
> > DNx 120 it is plus some decent drive space, Clipwrap and...
> >
> > Rip-a-dee-doo-dah!
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Robert Ferguson wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Bouke!
> > >
> > > I'm always trying to teach assistants the difference between
> > resolution and compression. Avid certainly doesn't help.
> > >
> > > I feel better now.
> > >
> > > Robert Ferguson
> > >
> > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:27 PM, bouke wrote:
> > >
> > > > First a bit of a rant, can we ALL (that means Avid) stop mixing
> > Compression
> > > > with Resolution?
> > > > (not typical for this thread, but had to vent something)
> > > >
> > > > for you, DNxHD 36 is full res at HIGH compression. It sucks for
> > delivery, no
> > > > matter the downconvert.
> > > > It will introduce a lot of compression artefacts.
> > > > Now, since you're from the PAL side of the world, you could
> > downconvert and
> > > > work in DV.
> > > > That will even be smaller, and way better quality, and will make a
> > fine
> > > > DVcam master
> > > > BUT, internet delivery is nowadays HD. 720x576 (and deinterlaced)
> > will NOT
> > > > be top quality for the net.
> > > > Even YouTube is doing 1080 nowadays.
> > > >
> > > > so, listen to everyone here, buy some drivespace, transcode to
> > DNxHD 120 and
> > > > work with that.
> > > > Any half decent transcoder you have laying around will do the
> > transfer.
> > > > Let your machine rip 24/7 and be done with it.
> > > >
> > > > ht
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bartekz" zbimages@>
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:01 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD workflow for final SD DVCAM master
> > > >
> > > > all I have is my trusty Macbook Pro 4.1,OS 10.6.8, 2.5GHz, Intel 2
> > core, 4
> > > > GB RAM. From what I know 6.5 won't run on that. I can deal with
> > that, it's
> > > > the codec question that puzzles me. Is DNx 36 ok if there is a
> > down-convert
> > > > to SD-PAL.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Roger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is better than doing an import of AVCHD on an older system.
> > AVCHD
> > > > > import was a bit flaky.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Terence Curren wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have access to a second computer? Laptop even? If so,
> > install the
> > > > > > free 30 day trial version of MC 6.5 and use it to AMA then
> > convert all
> > > > > > your footage. Then take that to your 5.5 system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > , "bartekz" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -unfortunatly I am limited to MC 5.5.3...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > , Robert Lawson wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Avid added AMA support for AVCHD files in version 6.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > Rob Lawson
> > > > > > > > System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
> > > > > > > > CBS News
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 8:12 AM, bartekz wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear L2,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > here is my scenario:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am about to cut a half hour documentary from about 30
> > hours of
> > > > > > > > > AVCHD
> > > > > > > > > footage, shot on Sony FS100. I need to import into MC
> > 5.5.3 but I
> > > > > > > > > am not
> > > > > > > > > sure exactly what codec is acceptable for a master on
> > PAL-DVCAM
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > internet. I did a few tests and I can see the difference
> > in the
> > > > > > > > > detail
> > > > > > > > > between low-to-high data rate codecs, but will this
> > matter in the
> > > > > > > > > down-convert? My project will be down-converted for
> > broadcast in
> > > > > > > > > SD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since drive space is an issue for me can I:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -import at DNxHD 36 or Apple ProRes Proxy via FCP and
> > still be
> > > > > > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > > the final PAL master? The internet file will be
> > compressed H.264
> > > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > reason the lossy/offline codecs here are fine?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -or must I import at a higher data rate codec for some
> > reasons of
> > > > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > consequence?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -is Clipwrap ok for the conversion here? I believe MC
> > 5.5 can't do
> > > > > > > > > AMA
> > > > > > > > > then transcode, only import.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks.
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> > > > > With best wishes,
> > > > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > > > +44 7973 543 660
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