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----- Original Message -----Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:00 PMSubject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does and Avid or any DPX sequence handle audio?No insult intended and yes the files seem to be working. I'm waiting final feedback from the first episode I used the new version on. All indications are positive from the initial QC.
And I'll give you another unsolicited plug. Just last week I was cranking on day of air for a live show. They received QT.movs from some of the sponsors which came as DNX 145 QT with interleaved audio. The truck could not ingest that. When they brought it to me we were going to have to have Pro Tools rework the audio and make me an aaf to then bake out a new .mov. I was able to instead take the files and in less than a minute each run your QT Map program, which I can't believe is free and I'd feel better if I can pay for it, which created discrete audio tracks and the truck was able to use them without issue. Your software literally "Saved the Show."
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :
What, are you trying to use my fabulous tech support to insult me :-) ?Speaking off, are your new files with the latest QTchange version OK now?BoukeVideoToolShed
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+31 24 3553311----- Original Message -----From: bigfish@... [Avid-L2]Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 12:47 AMSubject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does and Avid or any DPX sequence handle audio?Just wait till I have to use QT Change to save the day on the final delivery file. Perhaps that will excite you as much as the potential of saving 4.5TB of wasted storage and a 45 hour unnecessary render does me.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :
Yawn
Bouke
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Op 1 jun. 2016 om 00:26 heeft bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:So what I would infer from your post is that I'm not asking them to do something impossible just something they are not use to. I have yet to contact them directly so I'm holding off judgement on this.
But seriously a 5 TB file that takes days to generate over a .mov with the same quality in the final product that is 600GB and exports in half realtime once I've rendered the sequence is unacceptable? On sheer data size alone that would be beneficial to the IMF facility as well. Perhaps I am being misinformed as to their requirements but to me it's a no brainer that it would be better for all parties involved to use a QT to make the IMF on this project.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <rupert@...> wrote :
They really do live in the big data world. And have been for a number of years now.
It probably doesn't occur to them that you think their requirement of delivering DPX is onerous. It's their everyday experience and has been for years.
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 31 May 2016 19:49
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does and Avid or any DPX sequence handle audio?
But it's me the middle guy that is having to jump through hoops for differing assets between QC and IMF creation. I'm not saying that's wrong but it is really inefficient and seems a waste of bandwidth.
Here in a nutshell is what doesn't make sense to me. I'm told that Clipster can in fact make an IMF from a QT file. I have a sequence that is DNxHRHQX video essence. I'm told that more than likely if the Clipster system has the Avid LE codecs installed it will be able to make an IMF from a QT DNxHRHQX. Now it that's not the case then certainly the ProResHQ version I have made should work. This is all contingent on the fact that I'm told that Clipster can in fact make an IMF from a QT .mov. If this is wrong someone please correct me.
Given the above I see no reason why I should be required to deliver a .dpx asset to be used for the creation of the final IMF. Given my footage was Panny AVC Intra 422 10 bit transcoding it to Avid DNxHRHQX shouldn't effect the image quality in any meaningful way right?
So if I have basically camera raw quality material in the Avid DNxHRHQX video essence exporting that to .dpx isn't going to add any quality. To me that means if Clipster can in fact make an IMF from a QT, be it ProRes or Avid DNxHR, then where is there a benefit to delivering as .dpx?
I'm not trying to be right here I'm trying to understand what logic there is in creating a lengthy export process to an unwieldy 5TB dpx file for what seems to be no gain in image quality. There in lies the rub I'm trying to figure out.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote :it's always the last guy in the chain that bears the full responsibility for the delivered asset compliance.
BG
From: "bigfish@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does and Avid or any DPX sequence handle audio?
We are using a preferred vendor for QC and another preferred vendor for the IMF creation.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote :Netflix has a list of preferred vendors who fully comply to their delivery specs and get monitored and marked all the time on their deliveries.
If John chose one of these facilities, it is their responsibility to ensure the IMF file they create passes NFLX final QC.
In order to achieve this, they need a pre-conversion QC to make sure all assets are in check and the programme is valid, both technically and subjectively.
cheers,
BG
From: "Dennis Degan DennyD1@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com; Pat Horridge <pat@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does and Avid or any DPX sequence handle audio?
This is exactly what I was thinking. What's the point of QC if it's done with a file that isn't the one delivered for air?
Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge BankNBC Today Show
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On May 31, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Pat Horridge pat@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:What is the point of making a different format file for QC?
The QC should be on the delivery file.
At worst you'd QC an intermediate file but then you still have to QC the final file.
If the facility doesn't understand that then I'd find one that does.
Pat from his mobile.
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