This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: Gravity and Avid

The new HDMI Audio Receiver I just got to handle the input routing for my new Panny Plasma offers 4K upconversion right in the audio receiver. I know it's not going to make the HD Direct TV be 4K original programming but it does open up a pathway to take existing HD cable and satellite feeds to a new 4K display. Many of the receivers are offering this feature so clearly from the manufacturing side even in audio they are doing things to make the 4K monitor more attractive and usable even in the absence of true 4K production. Not trying to make a point here other than this is what I've learned in my ongoing home remodel and TV update.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
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> It's not about throwing say your tv to get a new one. It's simply that your NEXT tv will be 4k capable.
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> People don't just watch tv on tv anymore. My son hasn't watched anything other than on his laptop for almost a decade. I don't think terry would argue that a laptop 2 feet from your face doesn't benefit greatly from a retina display - as will watching a 4k movie on that very display at 2880x1800 today. Now imagine watching it on a 4k 30 inch dell display which is also about 3 feet from your head cos that's how kids run...
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> As for sports I see a whole slew of interactive features from replay buffers in the tv with encoded action track zoom settings letting you hit a replay button to see a play in double size.
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> How about screen sharing. Stereo shuttered glasses allowing two movies to be on the same screen with headphones to the viewers. For gamers two full 2k screen feeds allowing competitive play.
> And the biggest - more clearer text. From subtitles to graphics a new era of detailed on screen graphics become a possibility, training videos letting you peruse detailed blue prints, art installations if never before possible fractal geometry and so on.
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> Yes big brother and wheel of fortune will be a waste if the possibilities but the possibilities for new programming increase. A 4k tv becomes the living room computer screen which is where the biggest hurdle to interactive tv has been, tv is a social medium, interactive tv is a single person activity, bigger screens bring people together.
> I expected more from list especially.
> I have a fantastic book from 1950 by Maurice called broadcasting since 1950. He was the bbcs first tv chief broadcast engineer. He had been there from the start. In 1950 at the end if his career he reflected on the future, full of wonder and excitement at the possibilities of colour tv (how much grander the ballet will be in living vivid colour) and every higher resolutions (fulfilling the desires of reality and putting the viewer actually there). That's what I expected from the professionals on this list.
> Sure some people won't buy a big enough tv. Some people have crappy eyesight. Some shows don't deserve the extra bandwidth (some shies deserve no bandwidth and don't benefit from being in colour but that's another arguement). But some will.
> And that's what we should aim for as professionals to meet the demands if the must discerning end users and filmmakers not to adopt a 'good enough' mindset a stop progress.
> We didn't need Hd origination a Pal signal through a Farouda line doubler was indiscernible for a true hd signal - I saw it at Nab 1987. But the benefits if having higher resolution throughout the pipeline is well known. 4x the pixels will make every step of fx creation easier and more accurate with better end results. That's not opinion it's fact. But we pros won't get 4k production ability unless the wider market pays for the design and implementation of 4k displays so as an industry we have to embrace an end to end pipeline to get the production benefits.
> The arguements over bandwidth and hard dish saw irrelevant and petty. Back when we had 30 x 2gig icons all over out Mac desktops to edit Pal AD NTSC the thoughts of hd storage were terrifying. Yet we all routinely edit uncompressed hd today at a fraction of the cost of those SD suites. What makes anyone on this list think such progress has ended is beyond me.
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> On the other hand I don't think anyone will ever drive a car over 20mph as clearly people will asphyxiate.
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> Mike
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> > On 31 Oct, 2013, at 7:24 am, <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> > If the purpose is to have multiple feeds on the 4K screen, then we don't need to make 4K programs.
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> > If you honestly believe that average folks really want to throw away their perfectly good HD TVs (on which most are watching SD anyway) to buy a new 4K set that they can't really see a difference on, then you are smoking the same stuff the TV manufacturers are.
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> > With the transition to HD, there was a noticeable difference in the average home viewing environment. And SD TVs were dying with HD replacements being cheaper then the original SD sets. Those same circumstances don't exist this time.
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> > ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > On 31. okt. 2013, at 00:01, <tcurren@>
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> > > With 20/20 vision, you have to sit 8 feet from a 60 inch TV to get a 20 percent improvement.
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> > But the point here Terry is that this math is faulty, lots of people see way better than 20/20, lots of people sit closer and like it (like them in the front rows in the theatre), and our multi purpose lives are pushing 4K anyhow; lots of people want a 4K screen to share their screens on, the high res screen playing multiple airplay inputs will be the new living room center.
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> > Your argument was valid 3 or 2 years ago, but that's how progress works. 4K is here already, Avid just killed the only system they had that could easily handle it, and you're becoming the garden gnome in their front yard.
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