This IS the Avid L2: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix

Tuesday, July 23, 2013

RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
johnrobmoore
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:38 AM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix

Are you saying the new Marshall monitors go to 11. ;-) I will definitely
take another look next NAB. The Panny monitors were pretty bad years ago but
they have improved in the last 2 to 3 years so everything changes. We have
an older Marshall in our machine room and they mounted it too high so it
always looks washed out but nobody uses it for anything but presence of
signal. Look forward to seeing them next NAB. I'll be the one with the
Vectorscope Tshirt and smelling of OKI Dog. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave
Spraker" <avid@... <mailto:avid@...> > wrote:
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> John -
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> I think your assumptions about Marshall are outdated.
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> (Full disclosure, I rep Marshall in the Northwest but my opinions are my
> own).
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> I would agree that back a few years Marshall product was aimed at the low
> end. But I think now that they have a range of products that perform quite
> nicely. Certainly the angle of view is better that you see from BMD.
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> The Orchid line is pretty decent and the feature set is very good
> -http://www.lcdracks.com/racks/orchid-series/index.php.
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> Not to mention the fact that they are designed and assembled here in the
US.
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> But hey, don't take my word for it. Drop me a note off line and I'll get
> you a demo.
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>
> Dave Spraker
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> Western Rep | EditShare | Consulting | Sports Audio
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> <mailto:dave@...> dave@...
> (503) 897-0250
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> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> johnrobmoore
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:42 AM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix
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> Every Marshall monitor I've seen at NAB etc... looks like crap. I doubt
> there scopes are much better but it beats nothing. I think I'd rather look
> at the waveform displays than their crappy picture. ;-)
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave
> Spraker" <avid@ <mailto:avid@> > wrote:
> >
> > Steve -
> >
> >
> >
> > Another alternative is the Marshall monitors with video & audio
> measurement
> > built in - http://www.lcdracks.com/racks/DLW/
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Spraker
> >
> >
> > Western Rep | EditShare | Consulting | Sports Audio
> >
> > dave@ <mailto:dave@>
> > (503) 897-0250
> >
> >
> >
> > www.westernrep.com <http://www.westernrep.com>
<http://www.westernrep.com>
> >
> > www.editshare.com <http://www.editshare.com> <http://www.editshare.com>
<http://www.editshare.com/>
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> > www.spraker.tv <http://www.spraker.tv> <http://www.spraker.tv>
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> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > Steve Hullfish
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 4:36 PM
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix
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> >
> > I am about to publish a review on Ultrascopes on PVC.
> (www.provideocoaltion <http://www.provideocoaltion>
<http://www.provideocoaltion>
> > <http://www.provideocoaltion> ). I just checked out the SmartScope Duo
> that
> > actually has the scope packaged in a nice little rack-mountable pair of
> > LCDs. I agree with some of John's assessment. They are scopes. They are
> > accurate. They do work. They have no customizability. There's no
zooming.
> > There's no gamut displays. I would definitely put them in the category
of
> > "you get what you pay for" when compared to a better - and much more
> > expensive scope - like the Tektronix that I get paid to promote. If you
> have
> > $7000 to spend on a waveform monitor and you do color correction and
> > broadcast work that has to meet a certain level of QC, then you should
not
> > buy the UltraScopes. But if you want some form of external waveform
> monitor,
> > you can only afford $1000 and you can make do with the basic RGB Parade
> and
> > Vectorscope, then the UltraScope will do you fine. It is WAY better than
> > internal scopes, especially on Avid, which has the worst internal scopes
> on
> > the market, mostly because they don't update while you're making
> > adjustments! What's the fricking point in having a waveform monitor if
> > they're basically just for STILLS? Anyway, my review should be up on PVC
> > shortly. I promise Philip that I won't use a provocative title. I'll
stick
> > with something more in keeping with his marketing sensibilities like "A
> > theoretical evaluation of the Black Magic SmartScope Duo and their
> relevance
> > to the evaluation of high frequency video signals and the analysis of
> proper
> > gamut sensibilities within the confines of a broadcast environment in a
> > post-SMPTE neo-classical definition of luminance, hue and saturation."
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:15 PM, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@
> <mailto:bigfish@%0b>
> > <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've done shows with Ultrascopes. They are not my preference as they
> have
> > limited options and the lack of I and Q vectors is a pain regardless of
> what
> > the engineers might say. A simple addition that most other scopes have.
> The
> > lack of updating that feature request speaks volumes to me as to how
> > responsive Blackmagic is to user requests. I'm sure they listen but to
not
> > implement this simple addition after Ultrascope has been out this long
> isn't
> > promising.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
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> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@ <mailto:rusesculaurentiu@> >
> > wrote:
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> > > > Is Ultrascope good enough to asist CC in Avid?
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