Re: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness

Thanks once again. Just tested today and it completely solves a major
workflow problem we have been struggling with for years.

To elaborate further, for this series we import graphics created on a
Chyron system. Since they do not animate, it's much faster to export them
fro that system as stills and import them into Avid. I believe the Chyron
applies some anti aliasing of its own, so when Avid adds its filter, the
result is a very blurry graphic. The workaround until now, was to export a
QuickTime from the Chyron and import that into Avid, thus avoiding the
extra filtering. This is much slower and consumes much disk
space..especially when dealing with literally hundreds of graphics.

Avid really needs to make this user selectable checkbox on the Still Image
import dialog. It really sucks that the filter is applied automatically,
its completely undocumented and only way to turn it off is a "secret"
console command. If you have an e-mail link to someone at Avid who can
look into this, I would appreciate it.

J

On Sunday, June 23, 2013, Roger wrote:

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> On 23 Jun 2013, at 20:37, Andi Meek wrote:
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> > Here's a thread i started on the Avid forums regarding my experiences
> with title softness. Some interesting answers from a few of the guys from
> this list and others...
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> > http://community.avid.com/forums/p/92610/644724.aspx#644724
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> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:52:50 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness
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> > Does this go away if you render? An imported still exists as one single
> frame of media played out as a RT effect if not rendered. Might well make a
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> > With Best Wishes,
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> > Roger Shufflebottom
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> > +44 7973 543 660
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> >> Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 16:46
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> >> Subject: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness
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> >> Longtime issue for us over many versions of Avid.
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> >> Is seems that keyable graphics imported as stills (Tiff, TGA,
> Photoshop..any format) appear softer in a 1080i project than if the same
> exact graphic is created as a QuickTime movie (Avid DNX or Animation codec)
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> >> At first I thought it was incorrect settings for field order in the
> import dialog for the still version, but changing the setting to all three
> different options does not fix the problem.
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> >> As a test, make a simple graphic with text in After Effects (1080i, not
> 1080p)...export it both as a still and as an Avid QuickTime DNX file.
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> >> Import both into your Avid and cut between them keyed over a shot. Are
> they identical or is the still slightly softer? Please check in a broadcast
> monitor, not a computer screen,
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> >> BTW, if imported into Premiere and FCP, they ARE identical but not in
> Avid. I used After Effects for testing, as it is easy to do...but we first
> discovered the issue with graphics exported from a Chyron Lyric. We first
> thought the problem was there, but after testing with other software, it
> appears universal. Everything works fine in a progressive project, but
> interlaced causes the issue. As I said earlier, changing the field order
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> +44 7973 543 660
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