This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] OT: Re: AMA Clip duration issue

On a practical note a loss of time code would certainly make it hard to use Time of Day as a reference point to get to a matching time code in the general area. I don't see how something like frame count would facilitate that basic function. I know most file based cameras have some sort of date stamp in the header or metadata but the most logical way to resolve where something is on a file or tape is time of day code. That way your drop frame watch is a rough indicator of the source.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
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> Honestly, I am rarely to be the one to tell one of us old curmudgeonly editors "You are too stuck in your old ways." but seriously, as long as there is some way to flawlessly off-line/on-line relink to the exact frame that I want I could care less about timecode. Who needs it? I think that each frame of video or film should be like The Weather Channel's new SuperStorm naming system or the Hurricane naming system. Each frame gets an actual name, like Hilda or Joe.
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> Seriously though, timecode does seem antiquated as long as we can have some frame reference tucked into the metadata. Timecode definitely makes the most sense, but who really cares what the naming or identifying code is? Keycode worked fine for film guys. Half the young editors still don't understand the implications of NDF compared to DF. Timecode actually sucks. But its all we have for now. But you can definitely pry it away from my hands as long as there's something better to replace it.
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> Steve "Happy to drop drop-frame or non-drop" Hullfish
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> On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:21 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> > When I taught a couple editing classes at UCLA many years ago "The History of Time Code" an excerpt I found somewhere was required reading. I don't think I could live in a world without Time Code. What I mean to say is, "I'll give you my time code when you take it from my cold, dead hands". I think I speak for all the drop frames out there when I shout, "You can take your FCP duration and shove it." Been a long week and it's only Tuesday. ;-)
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