Tuesday, May 7, 2013

RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Automatic frame rate / motion effect

 

Well, God bless 720. The source material is all 720/5994 - so why would
I use a 2997 project? And... yet... the pulldown selection is there.
That makes absolutely no sense... and yet. We'll, if I wasn't almost
90% done with this project I'd try that instead. In fact, on the few
shots where the frame blurring is annoying, I might try it anyway.

Ahrg. I'll try that tomorrow.

gh

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Greg Huson
Chief
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
www.SecretHQ.com
DigitalServiceStation.com

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Automatic frame rate / motion effect
> From: "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@pacbell.net>
> Date: Tue, May 07, 2013 11:11 pm
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> I forgot to add that I haven't tried the same thing in a 720P 29.97 project but given on can toggle my project to that format I would hope it would work the same way. I have noticed with motion adapters etc.... I will often see a 2:2:2:4 cadence when stepping through the psf/fields but once rendered the 2/3 cadence is there. Could that be fooling you?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> > In my current project 1080i/59.94 I ama linked to clips with the Video Column=DVCPro HD (720p/60), Field Motion Column=Progressive and the Format Column=HD 1080p/23.976.
> >
> > I transcoded to DNX 220 and the resulting clips show Video Column=DNxHD 220 (HD1080i), Field Motion Column=2:3 Film and Format Column=HD 1080i/59.94..
> >
> > Stepping through the transcoded clips shows perfect cadence with A frames on :00 and :05 like it should be. This keeps my entire project out of the mixed frame rate cluster flop that can happen. During transcoding it's a blast watching the activity monitor shoot the cpu % above 1200. Finally makes the 12 cores sing. Although you know I'm more fond of Sony Decks but this worked for me.
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We rarely work in 720, but often deliver. Most typically it's a dub. A
> > > few times lately, though, I've had to convert 23.98p to 720/59.94p to
> > > integrate into existing 720 material. I know, we all hate 720, but I'm
> > > not in a position to dictate the delivery format.
> > >
> > > When converted using a tape deck, 23.98 to 720 is beautiful - and it
> > > converts BACK to 23.98 pretty nicely, too, just the same way you'd
> > > convert film transferred to SD- determining and extracting the 3:2
> > > pulldown.
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, there is not an 'insert 3:2 pulldown' in the motion effect in a
> > > 59.94 project. Even though there are no fields, the 'P' sequence would
> > > be the same - and that's what Sony decks and the like do when converting
> > > 23.98 to 59.94p (repeat frames in the same order as field pulldowns
> > > would be.)
> > >
> > > How the heck do you get proper motion in a 720/59.94 project when using
> > > a 23.98 source on your timeline??? I get decent results by switching
> > > the motion effect to 'both fields' instead of the worthless default
> > > 'blended interpolated,' but it's still not QUITE right. Anyone?
> > >
> > > GH
> > > -------------------------------------
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Chief
> > > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > DigitalServiceStation.com
> > >
> >

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