Indeed they will; just like they already are in the film business. The
big commercial ops are gone but the niche chaps with the love and the
expertise (mostly staffed by people made redundant from the big labs who
aren't getting younger....) are still there.
There are similar outfits doing the same for tape and data. I had a HI8
tape I needed footage off the other month. Took it to one of these
outfits.
Rupert Watson
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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jay Mahavier
Sent: 22 January 2013 19:36
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] what are yall using to archive
Yes, you can hold film up to the light and see an image with your eye.
But so what. What does that get you. How many places sill do film
scanning? Quite a few you say? Well, how does that number compare to 10
years ago? Oh, right, and now you see that film will be a difficult
medium to retrieve from in another 10 years.
I think something might be being missed. And that is the future business
of archived data restoration. And that can be a aspect of a post
business. Having a room somewhere that has some older model computers
being kept and a shelf of boot drives that have various OS versions on
them. So you can rebuild a Win98 or OS9 (or Linux) machine to access
someones archived data. Along with a film scanner and a bench. And a
DigiBeta, and D5HD deck. And an iOmega disk reader, etc. It's going to
be a niche business, but someone will be doing it.
Jay
On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> Hi Rupert,
>
> I would like something at least as enduring as properly stored film.
We can still scan (or hold up to the light and see) 100 year old films.
I can't read a floppy disc I made 6 years ago.
>
> While post houses haven't traditionally been in that business, clients
traditionally had videotape or film archives. Now that everything is
shot file based, how do you economically protect that footage for
possible use 15 years from now.
>
> Bear in mind that footage may be worthless, as most is. On the other
hand, it could be a special behind the scenes moment of someone who goes
on to become famous and beloved and suddenly dies tragic death rendering
that footage near invaluable. So it can't be expensive or difficult to
archive as most will be a waste. But the opportunity to preserve it all
so that special little bit of footage also survives is important.
>
> Ease, low cost, and guaranteed to be recoverable in 20 years
regardless of what happens to computers (they won't exist), standards
(current ones will all be gone by then) and environment (tape rot, discs
dying, etc.)
>
> BluRay has the most potential I see at the moment. It should last
longer than tape if what Sony says is true. But being able to read that
BluRay in 30 years is anything BUT guaranteed.
>
> And so the debate, and quest continues. (If you're rich, archive to
film and store it in a salt mine)
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
"Rupert Watson" wrote:
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>> What is on your wish list that the vendors have not provided?
>>
>> And did you mean archiving or backup? They are different beasts. Is a
>> post house really in the business of archiving? Do you have customers
>> who will pay you for that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rupert Watson
>>
>> +44 7787 554 801
>>
>> www.root6.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
>> Of Terence Curren
>> Sent: 22 January 2013 16:23
>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: what are yall using to archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Every year we hold a PreNAB Editors' Lounge panel. (this will be our
>> 10th year) we have a panel that prognosticates, kvetches, wishes for
new
>> things, etc. And for at least the last 5 years, one of the main
subjects
>> that comes up has been archiving. And every year we all agree that
there
>> isn't an ideal solution in place yet. I anticipate the same this
year.
>>
>> How can such a potentially huge market go so unanswered?
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "pat_adc" wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes we've avoided Blu-ray as Archives. DVD-Rs were never that stable
>> so no reason to think BD-R would be much better.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "Terence Curren" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
,
>> mike cardeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I hate it when companies make claims like this. Blue ray hasn't
>> been around long enough for them to know how it holds up after 10
years.
>> 50 years? puh-leze."
>>>>
>>>> Same thing I always give them a hard time about. Basically, they
use
>> a testing rig that simulates passage of time by exposing to extremes.
>>>>
>>>> < >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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