Having looked at this I think you can only set it to P or I but not upper or lower within interlaced - is that correct? The 'Shift fields' filter in FCP7 is useful for this.
On 16 Aug 2012, at 14:38, Mark Spano wrote:
> MC gets field motion wrong ALMOST ALL THE TIME when linking via AMA.
> Actually, I've only seen it right with DNxHD quicktimes and XDCAM/P2. I
> always have to go in to Field Motion and change every single clip from
> Unknown to Interlaced/Progressive depending on source. Come to think of it,
> this error of guessing is true of almost every application out there. FCP,
> Compressor, AfterEffects, everything. Always check your field order.
>
> Now the fact that when you change it to Interlaced, it plays out of order -
> I'd be inclined to think something else weird is happening. Was there HD
> source material in your original edit? Doing a QT ref without doing a
> mixdown first might have issues that way. I'd try the mixdown -> QT Ref ->
> Save as self-contained method and see if you still get out of order fields.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Job ter Burg (L2B) <Job_L2@terburg.com>wrote:
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>> I'm suspecting the 1:1x part. IIRC, there were always some issues with
>> that.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:57, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> QT Ref to Self Contained Movie with QT Pro Field Motion/Order Issue with
>> ama?
>>>
>>> MacPro OS 10.6.8 SNDX 5.5.3 1:1 SD mxf project 30I
>>>
>>> So now that I have ama with 5.5.3 for QT .movs I figured I'd run the
>> file I make back through Avid to my error logging scope. I export a QT ref
>> to maintain 4 tracks of audio and then use QT Pro to make a self contained
>> .mov. The resulting movie says Formant AVid 1:1x, 720x486 and plays fine in
>> QT Pro. I ama link to the file and it seems to play with field order
>> reversed. The field motion says unknown and the video format says Ai
>> :xTime. Huh? I change the field motion to interlace and still field order
>> seems reversed. If I change to progressive it plays correctly. The original
>> is interlaced with 2:3 pulldown on most of the source. I can go field by
>> field and everything is fine when field motion is set to progressive but if
>> I switch to interlace or 2:3 film I can see the field order issues as a jog
>> field by field. SD masterial in my NTSC world is always even lower field
>> first. What is happening in the food chain here that makes
>>> interlace field motion show inverted field order.
>>>
>>> Now for the error log which is why I did this in the first place. The
>> sequence has the safe color limit effect with RGB limited to 16-235 and 422
>> box checked. I can play the original sequence out to my scope and it won't
>> trigger any errors with the scope set to Tek defaults and 0% area in the
>> tolerance settings for the alarms. This is running through the external
>> legalizer which is so so but seems to do the job when combined with the
>> safe color limit effect. If I bypass the legalizer I get some occasional
>> errors RGB gamut wise. Now with the ama clip back in avid I get identical
>> errors playing back the exported clip. The errors are even frame accurate
>> to playing the original sequence both start and stop of the errors. I know
>> that's the way it should be but it's nice to see it working symmetrically.
>> So I guess just like I error log my final tapes with a 1% area tolerance I
>> have to apply the same to the QT files. If the safe color limiter
>>> was more effective perhaps no errors would get out. It's funny that I
>> need both the safe color limit on the sequence and my external ensemble
>> legalizer to get no errors. If I just use the ensemble I will get errors
>> which is why I use both. Also the fact that it is the file I'm told not the
>> digibeta master that is used for air. The tape is just a backup. Oh well
>> why does avid interpret the QT ama wrong when I set it too interlace.
>> HMMMMMMMMM
>>>
>>> John Moore
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