Thanks Shirley :)
(I love the obscure workflow threads....)
John McClary
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From: Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits-NOW-suitable topics for an international list
Hi John,
If perchance you consent to read this, I would like to point out that there are lots of topics on this list that might not interest a given member of that list. I find a way to navigate past the obscure workflows and various off topic postings, and I think anyone who can read a subject line can do the same. If we tried to bust the postings back to the lowest common denominator of what everyone finds relevant, I think the list would be poorer for it.
Best,
Shirley
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From: John McClary <johnnyq_@yahoo.com>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
As an international list, there are many here who don't have any interest in the
contract negotiation of LA unions. Except as it relates to production flight to
other locales.
(sorry, I tried to ignore it but with this many posts I had to see what the
discussion was about....)
John McClary
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From: oliverpetersvidy <oliverpeters@oliverpeters.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:08 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> Tony Breuer wrote:
> Now all of a sudden this has turned into group
> therapy and none of us are qualified therapists.
> Except maybe Terry Curren. Job, Oliver and Steve Hullfish. ;-)
Thanks, for the promotion ;-) Do I get a raise now? ;-)
Putting on the therapist hat.... I think the reason these things spin out of
control is that the issue has a lot of "baggage" associated with it. Union
contracts are very hard to separate from general attitudes on the subject, based
on personal political beliefs. So, it's hard to even start from a neutral POV.
Second, many here on the list have had polarizing experiences with unions. In
some cases, they've had a very positive impact on individuals and in others,
members have been direct victims of the worst tactics of the unions. It becomes
a touchy subject, no matter what.
In a much more practical sense, this is largely an LA (and to a much lesser
extent NY) issue. If you are outside of these two centers, the MPEG is
irrelevant. Mainly because you would never accrue enough qualifying hours to
make it worthwhile to be a member . I know plenty of IATSE film production crew
folks in Florida and they frequently work non-union, simply because there aren't
enough union jobs available to them. This is in spite of the fact that the union
threatens them with not being sent further union work for doing so. It's a bone
of contention for them.
Although work conditions are a valid discussion point, just understand that
arguing about things related to MPEG specifically have very little meaning to
anyone outside of LA. Even there, only for the folks working on TV shows and
films.
- Oliver
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