This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?

Who was it who said:

"The TV business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway
where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

There's also a negative side..."

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?

> An interesting argument.
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> But here's the thing: wage decline will eventually have a negative effect
> for our clients, and for television programming generally, because it
> ultimately will discourage senior professionals from remaining in the
> editing area of the field. When folks like me find that they can't have a
> decent, secure middle-class standard of living, they will look around for
> other things to do. I myself may be stuck in what's been called "the prior
> investment trap," but other talented people who are younger than I may
> decide that they should exercise other options, particularly if they want
> to have children. The end result will be brain drain, as editing becomes
> the province people under 35. And editorial brain drain is generally bad
> news for producers and directors, because it will force them to work with
> slower, less creatively experience, less productive personnel. Ultimately,
> that can be bad for your budget and timeline.
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> I do understand that much of this decline has to do with the breakup of
> the television market into tiny pieces, and that my clients are struggling
> with reduced budgets and compressed timelines. I have great love and
> respect for my clients, and I know how hard they work. I also understand
> that their wages have gone down as well. I guess one could argue that if
> we all need to find ways to create value for our clients as well as
> ourselves, that perhaps we also need to find a way to create value for
> Discovery, and The History Channel, so that they can pay us more. But
> somehow, I have trouble believing that those outfits are hurting so bad
> they can't even give the people who work for them a cost of living
> increase.
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> Shirley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilson Chao <wilsonchao@gmail.com>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:23 am
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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> With all due respect, if you're solely suggesting a "move to raise
> rates," I don't see how that will "create more value" for our CLIENTS.
> And without our CLIENTS receiving/perceiving more value, it's hard to
> justify anything more for US.
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> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com>
> wrote:
> Maybe there's a way we can create more value for ourselves. But I
> don't think we can do it individually. I'm not suggesting a union
> (I've done that and didn't like it much), but perhaps just a enough
> networking that the move to raise rates comes from a lot of the top
> editors in a given area at once, so there's more pressure.
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