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Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?

Sorry, the correct term is Goggles (i thought of it as plural, which is
isn't, like 'a pair of' is plural in my language)

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?

> Bouke, your English is better than that of most Americans (which is faint
> praise)!
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> You're joking, yes? Otherwise I will have to Google "Goggle" to see what
> it means.
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> Shirley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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> Google? What is a Google?
> Although i'm not a native speaker, i think the correct term is Goggle.
> And plumbers don't need them most of the time!
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> Bouke
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> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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>> Thank you! You spared me a Google.
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>> Shirley
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Miller <ammfx@yahoo.com>
>> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:28 am
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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>> Hunter Thompson
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>> Alan Miller
>> 48 Hours Mystery
>> CBS News
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>> From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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>> Who was it who said:
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>> "The TV business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
>> hallway
>> where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
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>> There's also a negative side..."
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>> Bouke
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>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> The Netherlands
>> +31 24 3553311
>> www.videotoolshed.com
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
>> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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>>> An interesting argument.
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>>> But here's the thing: wage decline will eventually have a negative
>>> effect
>>> for our clients, and for television programming generally, because it
>>> ultimately will discourage senior professionals from remaining in the
>>> editing area of the field. When folks like me find that they can't have
>>> a
>>> decent, secure middle-class standard of living, they will look around
>>> for
>>> other things to do. I myself may be stuck in what's been called "the
>>> prior
>>> investment trap," but other talented people who are younger than I may
>>> decide that they should exercise other options, particularly if they
>>> want
>>> to have children. The end result will be brain drain, as editing becomes
>>> the province people under 35. And editorial brain drain is generally bad
>>> news for producers and directors, because it will force them to work
>>> with
>>> slower, less creatively experience, less productive personnel.
>>> Ultimately,
>>> that can be bad for your budget and timeline.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do understand that much of this decline has to do with the breakup of
>>> the television market into tiny pieces, and that my clients are
>>> struggling
>>> with reduced budgets and compressed timelines. I have great love and
>>> respect for my clients, and I know how hard they work. I also understand
>>> that their wages have gone down as well. I guess one could argue that if
>>> we all need to find ways to create value for our clients as well as
>>> ourselves, that perhaps we also need to find a way to create value for
>>> Discovery, and The History Channel, so that they can pay us more. But
>>> somehow, I have trouble believing that those outfits are hurting so bad
>>> they can't even give the people who work for them a cost of living
>>> increase.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shirley
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wilson Chao <wilsonchao@gmail.com>
>>> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:23 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
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>>> With all due respect, if you're solely suggesting a "move to raise
>>> rates," I don't see how that will "create more value" for our CLIENTS.
>>> And without our CLIENTS receiving/perceiving more value, it's hard to
>>> justify anything more for US.
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>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Maybe there's a way we can create more value for ourselves. But I
>>> don't think we can do it individually. I'm not suggesting a union
>>> (I've done that and didn't like it much), but perhaps just a enough
>>> networking that the move to raise rates comes from a lot of the top
>>> editors in a given area at once, so there's more pressure.
>>>
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