Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] PAL question

Very much,
Thank you Greg.

Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg
Union Editorial
575 Broadway
6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Jul 3, 2012, at 12:53 PM, <Greg@SecretHQ.com> <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:

>
> PSF is 'progressive - segmented - frame.' FPS is 'frames-per-second.'
> How the data is recorded is irrelevant, psf is only a matter of how the
> data is moved, really. (PSF is a cheat from Sony - a progressive frame
> is separated into two time-identical fields delivered sequentially to
> keep bandwidth down - then cached and re-assembled, essentially, as a
> progressive frame. (My non-technical understanding.) So, here, PSF is
> not the issue. P or I might be the issue.
>
> Assuming you're v5 or later, MC will handle the conversion from 25 to
> 23.98 more-or-less automatically. If you're capturing the 25 from tape,
> you'll need to do that in a 25 project, then open that capture bin in
> your 23.98 project. If your choice is 25i (aka50i) or 25p, I'd go with
> p, personally, because you're cutting it into a 23.98p project (there is
> no 23.98i) and they'll mix better However, if your deliverable is
> 5994i, you might consider cutting in that format, especially if the
> source ends up as 50i.
>
> The exception would be if you get quicktime, and the source is 25p. I
> like to simply 'slow down' the 25p by forcing it to import (or AMA) at
> 23.98 (you can batch conform the QT using cinema tools - that's the
> easiest way.) That integrates pretty seamlessly into 23.98. The
> picture is playing 4.1% slower, so keep that in mind.
>
> Hope that's a little help.
>
> gh
> -------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Chief
> Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
> DigitalServiceStation.com
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] PAL question
> From: Jeff Hedberg <jeff@unioneditorial.com>
> Date: Tue, July 03, 2012 9:29 am
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>
> 'fps' and not 'psf'?
>
> Thank you.
> Jeff
>
> ------------------
> Jeff Hedberg
> Union Editorial
> 575 Broadway
> 6th floor
> New York, NY 10012
>
> On Jul 3, 2012, at 12:18 PM, David Ross wrote:
>
> > 25 fps.
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On 3 July 2012 17:02, Jeff Hedberg <jeff@unioneditorial.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Usually I request my dailies at 23.98 pfs because we rough cut and finish at 23.98 and then turn the final master to 59.94 for broadcast.
> > >
> > > However, I've got a production company shooting overseas at 25 - and want to make sure I request my dailies properly.
> > > Would I refer to the frame rate as 25 pfs also? Or would I say 25P? (I'm pretty sure you all don't have to deal with anything like the 24 vs. 23.98 that we do here - but I don't want to mess up)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > ------------------
> > > Jeff Hedberg
> > > Union Editorial
> > > 575 Broadway
> > > 6th floor
> > > New York, NY 10012
> > >
> >
>
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