Re: [Avid-L2] Editor rates in your area?

Shirley,
I have it on good authority that if you Google 'Google' you WILL break the internet.
;)

(from the wonderful TV show - 'The IT Crowd')

Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg
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On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:

> Bouke, your English is better than that of most Americans (which is faint praise)!
>
> You're joking, yes? Otherwise I will have to Google "Goggle" to see what it means.
>
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
>
> Google? What is a Google?
> Although i'm not a native speaker, i think the correct term is Goggle.
> And plumbers don't need them most of the time!
>
> Bouke
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
>
> > Thank you! You spared me a Google.
> >
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Miller <ammfx@yahoo.com>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:28 am
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >
> >
> > Hunter Thompson
> >
> > Alan Miller
> > 48 Hours Mystery
> > CBS News
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >
> > Who was it who said:
> >
> > "The TV business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
> > hallway
> > where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
> >
> > There's also a negative side..."
> >
> >
> > Bouke
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >
> >
> >> An interesting argument.
> >>
> >>
> >> But here's the thing: wage decline will eventually have a negative effect
> >> for our clients, and for television programming generally, because it
> >> ultimately will discourage senior professionals from remaining in the
> >> editing area of the field. When folks like me find that they can't have a
> >> decent, secure middle-class standard of living, they will look around for
> >> other things to do. I myself may be stuck in what's been called "the
> >> prior
> >> investment trap," but other talented people who are younger than I may
> >> decide that they should exercise other options, particularly if they want
> >> to have children. The end result will be brain drain, as editing becomes
> >> the province people under 35. And editorial brain drain is generally bad
> >> news for producers and directors, because it will force them to work with
> >> slower, less creatively experience, less productive personnel.
> >> Ultimately,
> >> that can be bad for your budget and timeline.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I do understand that much of this decline has to do with the breakup of
> >> the television market into tiny pieces, and that my clients are
> >> struggling
> >> with reduced budgets and compressed timelines. I have great love and
> >> respect for my clients, and I know how hard they work. I also understand
> >> that their wages have gone down as well. I guess one could argue that if
> >> we all need to find ways to create value for our clients as well as
> >> ourselves, that perhaps we also need to find a way to create value for
> >> Discovery, and The History Channel, so that they can pay us more. But
> >> somehow, I have trouble believing that those outfits are hurting so bad
> >> they can't even give the people who work for them a cost of living
> >> increase.
> >>
> >>
> >> Shirley
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Wilson Chao <wilsonchao@gmail.com>
> >> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:23 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >>
> >>
> >> With all due respect, if you're solely suggesting a "move to raise
> >> rates," I don't see how that will "create more value" for our CLIENTS.
> >> And without our CLIENTS receiving/perceiving more value, it's hard to
> >> justify anything more for US.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> Maybe there's a way we can create more value for ourselves. But I
> >> don't think we can do it individually. I'm not suggesting a union
> >> (I've done that and didn't like it much), but perhaps just a enough
> >> networking that the move to raise rates comes from a lot of the top
> >> editors in a given area at once, so there's more pressure.
> >>
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