but if she googles goggle, she'll learn that she'll need them if she gets
into plumbing!
mikedor
paintingwithlife.com
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Jeff Hedberg <jeff@unioneditorial.com>wrote:
> Shirley,
> I have it on good authority that if you Google 'Google' you WILL break the
> internet.
> ;)
>
> (from the wonderful TV show - 'The IT Crowd')
>
> Jeff
>
> ------------------
> Jeff Hedberg
> Union Editorial
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> New York, NY 10012
>
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
>
> > Bouke, your English is better than that of most Americans (which is
> faint praise)!
> >
> > You're joking, yes? Otherwise I will have to Google "Goggle" to see what
> it means.
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:49 am
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >
> > Google? What is a Google?
> > Although i'm not a native speaker, i think the correct term is Goggle.
> > And plumbers don't need them most of the time!
> >
> > Bouke
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> >
> > > Thank you! You spared me a Google.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shirley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alan Miller <ammfx@yahoo.com>
> > > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:28 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hunter Thompson
> > >
> > > Alan Miller
> > > 48 Hours Mystery
> > > CBS News
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> > >
> > > Who was it who said:
> > >
> > > "The TV business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
> > > hallway
> > > where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
> > >
> > > There's also a negative side..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Bouke
> > >
> > > VideoToolShed
> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Shirley Gutierrez" <guanacaa@aol.com>
> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> > >
> > >
> > >> An interesting argument.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> But here's the thing: wage decline will eventually have a negative
> effect
> > >> for our clients, and for television programming generally, because it
> > >> ultimately will discourage senior professionals from remaining in the
> > >> editing area of the field. When folks like me find that they can't
> have a
> > >> decent, secure middle-class standard of living, they will look around
> for
> > >> other things to do. I myself may be stuck in what's been called "the
> > >> prior
> > >> investment trap," but other talented people who are younger than I may
> > >> decide that they should exercise other options, particularly if they
> want
> > >> to have children. The end result will be brain drain, as editing
> becomes
> > >> the province people under 35. And editorial brain drain is generally
> bad
> > >> news for producers and directors, because it will force them to work
> with
> > >> slower, less creatively experience, less productive personnel.
> > >> Ultimately,
> > >> that can be bad for your budget and timeline.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I do understand that much of this decline has to do with the breakup
> of
> > >> the television market into tiny pieces, and that my clients are
> > >> struggling
> > >> with reduced budgets and compressed timelines. I have great love and
> > >> respect for my clients, and I know how hard they work. I also
> understand
> > >> that their wages have gone down as well. I guess one could argue that
> if
> > >> we all need to find ways to create value for our clients as well as
> > >> ourselves, that perhaps we also need to find a way to create value for
> > >> Discovery, and The History Channel, so that they can pay us more. But
> > >> somehow, I have trouble believing that those outfits are hurting so
> bad
> > >> they can't even give the people who work for them a cost of living
> > >> increase.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Shirley
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Wilson Chao <wilsonchao@gmail.com>
> > >> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:23 am
> > >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editor rates in your area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> With all due respect, if you're solely suggesting a "move to raise
> > >> rates," I don't see how that will "create more value" for our CLIENTS.
> > >> And without our CLIENTS receiving/perceiving more value, it's hard to
> > >> justify anything more for US.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> Maybe there's a way we can create more value for ourselves. But I
> > >> don't think we can do it individually. I'm not suggesting a union
> > >> (I've done that and didn't like it much), but perhaps just a enough
> > >> networking that the move to raise rates comes from a lot of the top
> > >> editors in a given area at once, so there's more pressure.
> > >>
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