Monday, May 21, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

I have no crop on my samsung UE32D5000. I can see the 100% quite fine.
Attached the mp4 I used: (thought i'd try it on the list since it's only 54Kb) Otherwise wil put in the files folder at yahoo

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On May 21, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Christian Foerster wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
>
> I know when I bought my own TV (Sony) 2 years ago and did research on
> consumer TVs, they all cropped 10% by default, I had to manually set my TV
> to "Actual Pixel" (other brands call it "Pixel for Pixel" or whatever) to
> make it display the actual resolution of the signal.
>
> Whether this has changed within the last 2 years I don't know, I must admit
> -- I'll do some research on this tonight.
>
>
> Bye,
> Christian
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Christian -
>>
>> I agree that this was certainly the wisdom of 20 or even 10 years ago. I
>> question whether this is valid today. What specific evidence do you have
>> that a TV rolling off an assembly line today does this? I am not asking
>> this rhetorically as a way to say you are wrong. I am asking this question
>> as a real question. Do you know or have you heard that a modern TV still
>> does 90% cutoff? It would be interesting to test. Maybe I'll do it
>> tomorrow. I have three brand new top quality big screen consumer LCD TVs.
>> Maybe I'll create a PS document with successive 10% increments of "borders"
>> and then send that image through HDMI from my computer to each screen and
>> see how much is actually cut from each one.
>>
>> I agree that many "smart" web repurposers run their video through a filter
>> that does the automatic 10% crop to match the assumed 90% safe action from
>> TV.
>>
>>
>> Steve Hullfish
>> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
>> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
>>
>> On May 19, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Christian Foerster wrote:
>>
>>> Many TVs crop off 10% of the image when set to factory settings, so
>> (sadly)
>>> 90% action safe is as valid as ever.
>>>
>>> Big distributors of Web content also crop off a certain amount of the
>>> TV-originated image when encoding it for the web.
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