Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Error when performing Digital Cut using IO Express and DVW?

Think I may have found a solution.

Took a little time and got behind the racks to rewire the 422 to the IO
Express's port. Using the IO Express 422 instead of the Avid-sanctioned
Keyspan serial adapter WORKS. I don't know if anyone's heard any caveats
about using that, but it seems to be behaving nicely with all of my decks.

Going now to rest my head...

-Mark


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those are more good suggestions. Here's the results:
>
> Setting deck configuration to SRW-5500 still gives me control of the
> DigiBeta. But now if I go to perform the Digital Cut, it gives me the error
> upon preroll. Doesn't even try to roll in and record.
>
> Tried my other two DVW decks too - same error.
>
> This is just fail city.
>
> I greatly appreciate the ideas though - thanks again.
> -Mark
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:58 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> You did say that the problem system will edit to SRW-5500 IIRC. What if
>> you manually configure the deck to the 5500 and try and control the
>> digibeta? It may not be frame accurate but I think the video record strobe
>> will still work given FCP7 had a generic setting for all Sony machines so
>> the basic protocol must be very similar. Do you have another digibeta
>> machine to try just to see if there is some slight format issue with the
>> deck?
>>
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yep - forgot to mention that when I upgraded to 5.5.3.1, I tried that
>> > option. No dice as well...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:35 PM, electropura212 <electropura212@
>> ...>wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I know you are on AJA, but the Blackmagic manual for Avid has
>> instructions
>> > > for a setting to relax Coincindence Point detection. This may fix your
>> > > problem. Give it a try.
>> > >
>> > > Capture from Controllable devices with UltraStudio, DeckLink and
>> > > Multibridge
>> > > If you have a deck which connects via RS-422, you will need to
>> configure
>> > > the deck settings before performing
>> > > a capture.
>> > > From your project window, click the Settings tab and double-click on
>> Deck
>> > > Configuration.
>> > > In the Deck Configuration dialog box, click Add Channel and then set
>> the
>> > > Channel Type to Direct and the Port to RS-422 Deck Control. Click OK
>> and
>> > > choose "No" when asked, "Do you want to autoconfigure the channel
>> now?"
>> > > Click Add Deck and then select your brand and model of deck from the
>> Device
>> > > menus and also set the desired preroll. Click OK and then Apply.
>> > > Under the Settings tab, double-click on Deck Preferences.
>> > > If you plan to make assemble edits to tape, enable the option to
>> "Allow
>> > > assemble edit & crash record for digital cut". If this option is left
>> > > unchecked, you will only be able to perform insert edits.
>> > > Enable the option to "Relax coincidence point detection" and set other
>> > > settings as needed. Click OK. You have completed setting up the RS-422
>> > > connection to your deck.
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.blackmagic-design.com/media/2445176/Desktop_Video_Manual.pdf
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2011, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>> > > > More testing:
>> > > >
>> > > > Tried insert edit on pre-striped tape - same error. Tried video only
>> > > > sequence, same result.
>> > > >
>> > > > Tried assemble edit with deck set to reference input video - same
>> error.
>> > > >
>> > > > At this point, I am officially declaring this operation broken.
>> Hopefully
>> > > > someone at Avid will respond to my trouble reports there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks again for the suggestions guys.
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:17 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...>
>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> **
>> > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What if you try an insert edit on a preblacked tape? Assemble
>> should
>> > > still
>> > > >> work but for the sake of trouble shooting it might reveal more of
>> the
>> > > story.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Finds preroll point just fine. Prerolls, then drops into record.
>> Drops
>> > > >> right out again, with error.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > More testing reveals:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Same exact sequence performs flawless digital cut with same deck
>> but
>> > > >> from system with a Nitris DX, so I'm pretty sure it's a MC<->IO
>> Express
>> > > >> thing. All assemble edits, and this only happens with the Digi -
>> tried
>> > > an
>> > > >> SR assemble edit with the IO Express and it went down fine.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I'll try flipping the deck to input video ref instead to see if
>> that
>> > > >> helps.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Maybe a better question now that I have a little more testing in
>> is:
>> > > >> anybody with an IO Express able to lay off to a digibeta?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Thanks for the suggestions,
>> > > >> > Mark
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:15 PM, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > I usually get the coincidence point error when the deck is
>> trying to
>> > > >> find the preroll point. I think they changed the wording to
>> include the
>> > > >> possibility the tape or deck is record inhibited. Any chance of a
>> > > drop/non
>> > > >> drop mismatch? Are you insert or assemble editing? Could the deck
>> be
>> > > >> regenerating the wrong timecode df/nd when it goes into assemble
>> edit?
>> > > For
>> > > >> giggles see if you can do a proper machine edit while feeding the
>> deck
>> > > the
>> > > >> Avid signal.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Spano" <cutandcover@>
>> wrote:
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > Hi folks,
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > Wonder if any of you have had this issue and how you got
>> around
>> > > it.
>> > > >> I have a current issue Mac Pro running 10.6.8 and MC 5.5.3.1. Have
>> just
>> > > >> installed the IO Express and have the 9.0.5 drivers for it, and
>> using a
>> > > >> Keyspan adapter for serial control. Everything is working as
>> expected in
>> > > MC
>> > > >> - proper video output, can change settings and lock to reference.
>> But
>> > > when
>> > > >> I go to perform a Digital Cut to a Sony DVW-A500 DigiBeta deck, it
>> > > >> prerolls, goes into record, and then drops right out. It gives me
>> an
>> > > error
>> > > >> about trying to locate coincidence point on tape. I have checked
>> this
>> > > exact
>> > > >> same setup with FCP on this system using the IO Express and
>> Keyspan and
>> > > >> everything goes off without a hitch. Just can't output to tape
>> with MC.
>> > > >> Hoping someone here has an idea.
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > Mark
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
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