This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: outputing from XDCam to tape

Greg,
Workflow is very simple.
Create an ALE from your source clips, and feed that as input to LTC
generator, and the app will output BWF files containing LTC.
With those you can make synced clips. Place them on a timeline, and play
out.
If you set your avid in Direct out, you can map / patch your original sound
channels to the deck, and the track containing the LTC to the timecode input
of the recording deck.
(keep in mind that LTC timecode is a normal sound signal)

I'm not sure what the demo limitations are, but i'm pretty sure i've made it
in a way you can test the entire shebang!

hth,

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Huson" <Greg@SecretHQ.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: outputing from XDCam to tape - time of day

The job is done, but id still like a solution to the problem. Not quite
sure how we'd use this in Media Composer- and the xdcam opens directly in
MC- there's no qt involved (this is not EX.)

Greg (at) secrethq.com
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
www.DigitalServiceStation.com
www.SecretHQ.com
iPhone

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:40 AM, "bouke" <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

> A little late at the party, but this will solve the problem:
> http://www.videotoolshed.com/product/44/ltcgenerator
>
> At the cost of loosing one of your audio channels, but that might not hurt
> if you have direct out and only a few mics on the sources.
>
> hth,
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Huson" <Greg@SecretHQ.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: outputing from XDCam to tape - time of day
>
> > Didn't work. Tried it with both the HDCam and the SR - there may be
> > something in the avid that's not passing vitc- but it looks like there
> > isn't any.
> >
> > Kind of the a 'no duh' answer, too - it should work exactly this way.
> > I'm
> > going to poke around a little more so we have a solution for next time.
> > I'm sure we'll see this more and more frequently. Still, the PDW is so
> > much cheaper than the deck, even for rental, it's hard to bill the deck
> > back to the client - I would if we were doing a big batch, but we're
> > doing
> > these piecemeal - plus this is the first time we've run into time of
> > day.
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
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> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:08 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >
> >> The more I think about this I have another suggestion. What if you
> >> played
> >> the HD timeline out to an HDCam deck and set the HDCam deck to slave to
> >> the incoming VITC which in this case would be the anc data time code of
> >> the source coming down the HDSDI output of the avid assuming AMA linked
> >> media would pass this data, I have not tried that. I would expect the
> >> downconvert output of he HD deck to have VITC time code that would
> >> match
> >> the source time codes anc data. You could probably just pass through
> >> the
> >> HD deck in e/e to get to the digibeta. This would let you just cut the
> >> source clips together and do a straight digital cut in local mode
> >> without
> >> having to start and stop.
> >>
> >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I know Avid will pass normal source VITC time code if it is present
> >> > when captured in the SD world. You can set the digibeta to slave to
> >> > incoming VITC in those cases and it will match the source time code.
> >> > I
> >> > have not tried this with HD material and I don't think Avid would
> >> > regenerate SD VITC time code from the hanc/vanc but I'd love to be
> >> > wrong. As has been mentioned you could take the ltc time code out of
> >> > the Nitris/Hardware and feed it to the digibeta. You could then
> >> > manually record on the Digibeta and playback the timeline using fast
> >> > forward to hop to the next clip. If you set the timeline to high
> >> > quality I wouldn't think there would be a dropped frame issue but I
> >> > don't know for sure. If you had to you could put the digital cut tool
> >> > in local and leave the digi in record while marking the next section.
> >> > I
> >> > would think this would give ascending time code that would jump to
> >> > the
> >> > next inpoint timecode when the local digital cut would begin for the
> >> > next section you mark. Not exactly automated but might work. I
> >> > haven't
> >> > looked for but there might be external downconverters that would
> >> > generate time code from the source anc. data and generate proper SD
> >> > time code as vitc then you could just cut all the clips together and
> >> > do
> >> > one local digital cut. Sure wish Avid had the choice of spitting out
> >> > sequence or source time code on it's output signal.
> >> >
> >> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Interesting problem- with one particular ongoing, normally we get
> >> > > XDCam HD Discs that are 'record time.'
> >> > >
> >> > > Part of our deliverables is to make digibeta of the XDCam- no
> >> > > problem, you AMA the clips to Avid, put them on a timeline that
> >> > > matches the timecode of the source, then lay that timeline to tape-
> >> > > now the digibeta timecode matches the source (with consideration
> >> > > for
> >> > > pulldown) so that if the client wants to go back to the HD, we have
> >> > > matching code- just like making a downconvert from 23.98 to
> >> > > digibeta-
> >> > >
> >> > > But, in this case, the XDCam was shot using time of day, in spite
> >> > > of
> >> > > our specific instructions to the contrary.
> >> > >
> >> > > without making a giant long timeline the length of the recording
> >> > > day,
> >> > > then starting and stopping the timeline 30 times (or whatever,) and
> >> > > 'crash' -recording each time they stopped the deck (allowing for
> >> > > preroll, of course):
> >> > >
> >> > > is there a way to get time-of-day from XDCam to the VTR through
> >> > > Media
> >> > > Composer? I'd even be willing to make an interim HDCam if that
> >> > > would
> >> > > help.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any suggestions? We do NOT have the XDCam 'deck,' but rather use
> >> > > the
> >> > > PDW-U1 to copy the files right off the disc.
> >> > >
> >> > > gh
> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > > Greg Huson
> >> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> >> > > Post Production / Production
> >> > > Culver City, CA
> >> > > 323 677 2092
> >> > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> >> > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> >> > > facebook.com/greg.huson
> >> > > www.SecretHQ.com
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