Thursday, October 13, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: outputing from XDCam to tape - time of day

 

A little late at the party, but this will solve the problem:
http://www.videotoolshed.com/product/44/ltcgenerator

At the cost of loosing one of your audio channels, but that might not hurt
if you have direct out and only a few mics on the sources.

hth,

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Huson" <Greg@SecretHQ.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: outputing from XDCam to tape - time of day

> Didn't work. Tried it with both the HDCam and the SR - there may be
> something in the avid that's not passing vitc- but it looks like there
> isn't any.
>
> Kind of the a 'no duh' answer, too - it should work exactly this way. I'm
> going to poke around a little more so we have a solution for next time.
> I'm sure we'll see this more and more frequently. Still, the PDW is so
> much cheaper than the deck, even for rental, it's hard to bill the deck
> back to the client - I would if we were doing a big batch, but we're doing
> these piecemeal - plus this is the first time we've run into time of day.
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> facebook.com/greg.huson
> www.SecretHQ.com
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>
>
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:08 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>
>> The more I think about this I have another suggestion. What if you played
>> the HD timeline out to an HDCam deck and set the HDCam deck to slave to
>> the incoming VITC which in this case would be the anc data time code of
>> the source coming down the HDSDI output of the avid assuming AMA linked
>> media would pass this data, I have not tried that. I would expect the
>> downconvert output of he HD deck to have VITC time code that would match
>> the source time codes anc data. You could probably just pass through the
>> HD deck in e/e to get to the digibeta. This would let you just cut the
>> source clips together and do a straight digital cut in local mode without
>> having to start and stop.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > I know Avid will pass normal source VITC time code if it is present
>> > when captured in the SD world. You can set the digibeta to slave to
>> > incoming VITC in those cases and it will match the source time code. I
>> > have not tried this with HD material and I don't think Avid would
>> > regenerate SD VITC time code from the hanc/vanc but I'd love to be
>> > wrong. As has been mentioned you could take the ltc time code out of
>> > the Nitris/Hardware and feed it to the digibeta. You could then
>> > manually record on the Digibeta and playback the timeline using fast
>> > forward to hop to the next clip. If you set the timeline to high
>> > quality I wouldn't think there would be a dropped frame issue but I
>> > don't know for sure. If you had to you could put the digital cut tool
>> > in local and leave the digi in record while marking the next section. I
>> > would think this would give ascending time code that would jump to the
>> > next inpoint timecode when the local digital cut would begin for the
>> > next section you mark. Not exactly automated but might work. I haven't
>> > looked for but there might be external downconverters that would
>> > generate time code from the source anc. data and generate proper SD
>> > time code as vitc then you could just cut all the clips together and do
>> > one local digital cut. Sure wish Avid had the choice of spitting out
>> > sequence or source time code on it's output signal.
>> >
>> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Interesting problem- with one particular ongoing, normally we get
>> > > XDCam HD Discs that are 'record time.'
>> > >
>> > > Part of our deliverables is to make digibeta of the XDCam- no
>> > > problem, you AMA the clips to Avid, put them on a timeline that
>> > > matches the timecode of the source, then lay that timeline to tape-
>> > > now the digibeta timecode matches the source (with consideration for
>> > > pulldown) so that if the client wants to go back to the HD, we have
>> > > matching code- just like making a downconvert from 23.98 to digibeta-
>> > >
>> > > But, in this case, the XDCam was shot using time of day, in spite of
>> > > our specific instructions to the contrary.
>> > >
>> > > without making a giant long timeline the length of the recording day,
>> > > then starting and stopping the timeline 30 times (or whatever,) and
>> > > 'crash' -recording each time they stopped the deck (allowing for
>> > > preroll, of course):
>> > >
>> > > is there a way to get time-of-day from XDCam to the VTR through Media
>> > > Composer? I'd even be willing to make an interim HDCam if that would
>> > > help.
>> > >
>> > > Any suggestions? We do NOT have the XDCam 'deck,' but rather use the
>> > > PDW-U1 to copy the files right off the disc.
>> > >
>> > > gh
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------
>> > > Greg Huson
>> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
>> > > Post Production / Production
>> > > Culver City, CA
>> > > 323 677 2092
>> > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
>> > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
>> > > facebook.com/greg.huson
>> > > www.SecretHQ.com
>> > >
>> > >
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