Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] outputing from XDCam to tape - time of day

 

I'd say then you have two options:

a) Play it out an risk dropped frames, get someone fresh and eagle eyed
to check the transfers. Personally I've never noticed drop frames on
playback... but perhaps I just was lucky.

b) I know you say you've not got one but why not hire in a deck. Then,
the price of the deck for a few days will probably be less than the
price of your avid for the many hours spent 'tinkering' trying to make
it work.

But then to quote Spock and Holmes: "Once you have eliminated the
impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

If there is a series worth of rushes in this situation....

Why not record 24hours worth of LTC, (if you do with the bitc at 15:1
that'll come in handy down the road, or on days like this ;o))
Edit that onto a time line on say Tk5 audio so that the ltc is correct
sync to the source. You'll not need the video but it's also always nice
to have a bit of pre roll, which you could add, for those editors who
like to cut material from the 4th frame of the clip.
Do your digicut with embeded audio, smack 30 seconds of pre roll on the
avid. Hit go, crash the deck (we all know sony decks can miss a record)
and take the ltc from the still rolling digicut out the avid directly
onto the deck - tc ext regen)

or..... open pandoras box and someone really wizzy could edit the files
and modify the timecode.....

Cheers,

Marcus
On 12/10/2011 18:18, Greg Huson wrote:
> Unfortunately, that's the only method we've worked out, too. Of course, in order to guarantee no dropped frames, you have to go out the digital cut tool- so we build massive long timelines that match the shooting day, and just 'crash record' each time the camera stopped and started (with short handles.) NOT ideal.
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> On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Marcus wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2011 18:55, Greg Huson wrote:
>>> Interesting problem- with one particular ongoing, normally we get XDCam HD Discs that are 'record time.'
>>>
>>> Part of our deliverables is to make digibeta of the XDCam- no problem, you AMA the clips to Avid, put them on a timeline that matches the timecode of the source, then lay that timeline to tape- now the digibeta timecode matches the source (with consideration for pulldown) so that if the client wants to go back to the HD, we have matching code- just like making a downconvert from 23.98 to digibeta-
>>>
>>> But, in this case, the XDCam was shot using time of day, in spite of our specific instructions to the contrary.
>>>
>>> without making a giant long timeline the length of the recording day, then starting and stopping the timeline 30 times (or whatever,) and 'crash' -recording each time they stopped the deck (allowing for preroll, of course):
>>>
>>> is there a way to get time-of-day from XDCam to the VTR through Media Composer? I'd even be willing to make an interim HDCam if that would help.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? We do NOT have the XDCam 'deck,' but rather use the PDW-U1 to copy the files right off the disc.
>>
>> Don't have a composer handy, to check but with the meridian boxes you
>> could spit out LTC from the relevant hole on the BoB. Don't know if
>> it'll work as a sequence to play out source TC from this but you could
>> certainly get "a runner" to sit wit the system and drop each clip into
>> the play window and play the clip and then the next and the next.
>>
>> Just a thought,
>>
>> Marcus
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