Thursday, January 20, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Weird XDCAM EX files... or something else?

The file structure you describe is that of an XDCAM optical disc as exposed
when the U1 drive is operating as a USB mass-storage device, as others have
said. Avid doesn't (or didn't when I last tried) recognise that file
structure as an AMA-capable source.

Once the Sony FAM drivers are installed the folder structure is shown
differently and become recognisable to Media Composer as an XDCAM disc
source.

There's no way I know that an EX camera could create this folder structure -
it used a totally different wrapper to start with, does not create proxy
videos and uses the BPAV structure as you suggest.

So looking at those files I'd assume that they were either recording on an
XDCAM Disc camera, or using something like a PDW-HD1500 deck to record the
output of the camera. One alternative is that the Sony Clipbrowser software,
with an upgrade option, does support transcoding EX material to 50Mbit/s
XDCAM HD (aka XDCAM HD422) and writing it to an XDCAM disc as 50Mbit HD
video.

It's also possible, I suppose, that the Nano recorder they've been using
generates that file structure - I've never used on, I don't know.

In Media Composer 5 you can AMA to arbitrary supported files, regardless of
folder structure (so you could copy all the MXF files out and just link to
them). But this is not an option in MC4 where only supported file structures
are recognised as a valid source.

Good luck!


Dylan Reeve
http://dylanreeve.com/


On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:11 AM, ripvanmarlowe2000 <kwikpasta@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Listers,
>
> We're working on a job at the moment which is shooting on EX3s and they've
> been providing us with the EX folders from there SxS cards on hard drive.
> Normally i'd expect to see the usual file structures of BPAV>CLPR etc. right
> down to the MP4 file with the XMLs etc but recently we've been reciveing
> something a bit weird. We're seeing a series of folders called; Clip, Edit,
> General, Sub, Take and User Data, then three loose files called CUEUP>XML,
> DISCMEDIA.XML and MEDIAPRO.XML. Sub seems to contain proxies, and Clip has
> full res files but with MXF files rather than MP4s and a selection of .BIM
> and XML files. We can link to the folder with AMA but it only brings up a
> bin with the clips and does not link to them (they don't turn yellow, media
> offline). When we import the files they are fine. (We're on version 4.0.5 MC
> DX)
>
> Proxies make me think they would be using XDCAM HD discs but i know they
> are shooting on an EX3?? Plus how would it be recording MXF files? Is there
> some software or process that they may be using which would create these
> folder structures or re-wrap the files to MXF?
>
> They did have a nanoflash recorder attached which shoots MXF but they tell
> me they have stopped using the nano. WTF is going on? It's ok because i can
> still get the files in but i'd love to know what the deal is with this weird
> hybrid.
>
> Any help appreciated as always. Cheers,
>
> Andi
>
>
>


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