Wednesday, January 26, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Suggestion Request: HDSDI Converter: PsF -- to Progressive

 

Thank you very much for that article.

Interestingly, I had called AJA BEFORE buying the Hi5-3G and they told me it 'unified' PsF into Progressive.

After I purchased the unit and witnessed the video judder -- they sent me an HDP2 evaluation unit -- which suffered from the exact same problem.

And then, when the BMD Decklink HD Extreme 3D would not accept PsF-based HDSDI from the Mojo DX -- nor the Progressive HDMI output from the Hi5-3G -- I began a quest to try to solve this problem in the SDI domain.

I'd still be very interested if anyone knows of a device that inputs and outputs HDSDI -- and that is capable of ingesting PsF and outputting the Progressive profile of the same frame rate.

Thanks again for your help.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "editbruboy" <bruno@...> wrote:
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> I've been looking into the AJA converters and although it may look as if the Hi5 should fit the bill, there's been some chat about the fact that this model simply sends through what it's been sent.
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> Have a look at this article from Creative Cow.
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> http://library.creativecow.net/articles/garchow_jeremy/HP_DreamColor_CRT_Replacement.php
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> It's primarily concerned with connecting up the HP Dreamcolor monitor, but there's a section that mentions that the Hi5 won't convert Psf to true progressive. The article recommends using the AJA HDP2 instead.
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> I've cut and pasted the relevant section below in case the link doesn't work.
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> Ed. note: in a recent Creative COW forum post, Jeremy had a bit more to add about the HDP2.
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> "Why do you suggest the HDP2? Wouldn't the AJA Hi5 3G converter be the better choice for me? Since the HP needs a HDMI 1.3 or DisplayPort input to go into DeepColor mode, seems to me that would be the way to go, no?"
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> No. You can search this forum and read other posts on the topic (I have a DreamColor as well) but the HDP2 provides HDMI 1.3a (via a user supplied and inexpensive DVI to HDMI cable) and it also takes whatever signal you are feeding it and makes it true p. So that would allow you HD and SD capability out of the same Kona when working in 1080p(sf) and using the DreamColor. It also allows SD monitoring on the DreamColor. The hi5 3G simply passes through what it's sent and doesn't output true p, effectively disabling accurate color monitoring on the DreamColor.
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> You will see other posts that the LHi is enough, and in some cases it is, but to me the HDP2 is kind of a no brainer when working in mixed format environments and using a DreamColor monitor. The combo of the Kona LHi, the DreamColor, the HDP2 is still more cost effective than buying 1 of the other HDSDI 10-bit display panels out there. It's still a good deal and a very nice monitor (in my opinion). It won't do 1080p60, but knowing AJA's abilities I am sure a 3G version of the HDP will fix that at some point.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
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> > I have a couple of HDSDI-based devices that just can't seem to 'digest' my Avid Mojo DX's HDSDI Progressive Segmented Frame (PsF) outputs.
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> > My AJA Hi5-3G (HDSDI to HDMI Converter) and my BMD Decklink HD Extreme 3D (feeding a FMLE encoder running on a separate computer) are clearly specified to accept and 'unify' 1080/23.976 PsF -- and 1080/24 PsF -- but they choke on it.
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> > And, my BMD Ultrascope similarly misinterprets the Mojo DX's 1080/29.97 PsF -- as 1080/59.94i (a not uncommon mistake -- but still annoying).
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> > Does anyone know of a dedicated HDSDI Converter whose design (and cost) is limited to unifying these Progressive Segmented Frame profiles -- back to their native and unified progressive formats?
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> > Thanks in advance.
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