Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The "tape is dead" thread

Okay, look. Mr. Murch isn't saying he ONLY scans through 10-minute rolls seeking inspiration. I'm sure he also has a focussed session with complete takes. All that's being said here is that the NLE way of working (mostly) eliminated a happy thing that happened when your dailies were assembled into longer lab rolls that had to be put on the Steenbeck and shuttled through in order to either get to a shot or to rewind before putting it back in the box. This act of high-speed shuttling gave you a fast reminder of what else had been shot -- which is NOT like the way we usually deal with shots in the NLE world, in which you have individual master clips and subclips.

Murch is saying that it was within this mechanical need to spool through longer lab rolls that he often would be reminded of, or would find unexpected inspiration in, the cascade of images hurtling across the viewer. This was organic to the workprint-on-the-KEM world, not so much in the NLE world.

On Dec 20, 2010, at 1:00 PM, switthaus wrote:

> I guess my point is how do you get good feel for a take/shot by shuttling by versus watching it and making notes on each one (in real time versus shuttle speed)? Again, I work in the short form world so I am usually only dealing with 1-2 hours of footage on a normal spot.
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> I think by actually watching each scene, you can also come up with good or better ideas from the footage that the client may not have known they even had. Far better than watching a tape shuttle by. Sorry Mr. Murch, I am not buying. :-)
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> > I'm guessing you haven't read Murch's book. His point was that shuttling gave him time to take a mental break which allowed other ideas to percolate, and also allowed him to be reviewing other shots flying by which often triggered entirely different ideas that could end up being better.
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> > I personally used to experience this cutting shows on a linear edit system. Often I'd see a shot flying by that was even better than the shot I was heading to use.
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
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> > > huh? Shuttling by? Not sure thats a good way (for me) to choose good takes or parts of takes of a scene. Even when loading dailies from tape, I would capture the entire lab roll, then go back and subclip each scene, take, etc. Maybe thats just me, but...
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> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
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> > > > <<As far as tape being a way to get to know your footage better, I disagree. I still look at and sub-clip every shot, file or tape. >>
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> > > > You're missing the point. It's not that you have never sen the shots, it's that you are constantly reminded of them when they are shuttling by.
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David Dodson
davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

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