Re: [Avid-L2] Re: ACE blog

I think we're in basic agreement here, and I'm not surprised that someone as expert as yourself would have been able to set up an effective work flow for a long form project in Final Cut. The real difference for me is that Avid doesn't require me to be a "power user" when it comes to media management. I, for one, have zero interest in system setup; I'm an editor, and I didn't get into this line of work to spend my time fretting about media databasing. I never have to think about these issues on Avid systems, perhaps in part because I'm more likely to be operating those systems in professional environments where system maintenance is properly the job of geeks who like that sort of thing. And I think it's well known that Avid clip/media file relationship is much more stable than it is in FCP.
On that topic, I'm pretty stunned that in 6.0.6 I still get the media corruptions that have been characteristic of Final Cut since my first unbelievably wretched job with it in version 1.2. For example, I recently had to de-select "Auto Render" in my user preferences, because I found that if I turned my back and the system decided to render all my music tracks, in many cases I would end up with media garbage in between the cut lines. The source was the same, but the wrong portion of the clip ended up in the render file. The timecode data was still there, so I could match back, re-overwrite the source back, and all would be well with my music edits, but it amazes me that this would happen at all nearly ten years after this product was born. It should be mentioned that I've also seen it completely mis-link, so that random shots show up in your timeline. In those cases the fix was the same, matching back and replacing.
This fundamental instability of the clip/media file relationship is FCPs dirty little secret, and I have to wonder if it's related to the problem that leads it lose linkage so often. It makes sense to me that top-notch professionals who have some basis of comparison would complain about having to live with this. Scott characterizes this as whining. If it is whining, then I wish more users had whined loudly, thrown themselves on the ground and kicked and screamed, and held their collective breath until they turned blue. Perhaps if they had, this product would be in better shape by now.
Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: oliverpetersvidy <oliverpeters@oliverpeters.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 9:26 am
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: ACE blog

> Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
> And do you have 250 hours of footage ...
>... I think the bigger the project, the more chances
> there are to get into trouble.

This is all true and it gets down to editor experience. And whether or not you
are a "power user" of the system. Many excellent storytelling editors aren't.

My largest FCP job to date has been about 200 hours on a project started over 4
years ago and one that I recently had to dive back into for revisions. I was
juggling about 14TB of combined offline and online-quality media as well as new
footage. In various SD and HD formats.

No real FCP problems, but plenty of organizational issues to tackle. Of course,
FCP version migration and OS changes on top of it. And yes, there were a few FCP
quirks caused by Media Manager. Nevertheless, it can be done.

- Oliver

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