Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Closed Captioning

True. They only use SD encoders. Most of our "local" programs are
excluded from captioning right now. The ones that do it don't get
broadcast in HD anyway.

Regarding the "Frugal" method, I imagine a rendered quicktime track from
a CC service could be used in place of the phone setup /beta dub/
recapture method.

Anyone doing this? In SD, would it not negate the nead for the $6K
encoder?

RT

Terence Curren wrote:

>
>
> That method would only work in SD where the CC shows up in the picture
> area. The problems all started with HD where the CC info is buried in
> Ancillary data.
>
> Adrenaline and I believe the DX box allows you to capture the CC
> ancillary data with your video. However, you have no access to it. You
> can't modify the video in any way or else you lose that data. It is
> virtually useless for any workflow other than capture and spit back
> out. I guess it's good for one deck cloning?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>, RT
> <huipro@...> wrote:
> >
> > And the BlackMagic cards too, from what I have read.
> >
> > There appear to be many ways to skin a caption. Hiring a pro would be
> > my preference.
> >
> > Avid's subcap generator, though intended for open captions, can create
> > and export binary EBU N19 (or Avid DS) caption files that
> > "theoretically" can be used with the caption software used to drive
> > video encoding boxes like EEG, Evertz, Link and Electronics. Or
> > possibly for software only encoding. However, I have to say, I HAVE
> > NEVER RUN INTO ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY USES SUBCAP AND METASYNC FOR THIS.
> >
> > As far as the frugal routes go, some folks I know with Adrenalines do
> > something like this:
> > Export your audio track as a quicktime or .wav file. (Optional)
> > Email or FTP it to a transcriptionist in India or Alaska or wherever.
> > Set up an encoding session with them on the phone
> > Use one phone line to send program audio to them, and another for
> > them to send a modem data feed to your encoder.
> > Press play and let them create and send the text live (they can also
> > trigger text from the pre made transcription) - pray that they keep up
> > Record the encoded video output to digibeta or beta.
> > Hang up (very important) and capture this videotape into your avid,
> > preserving the CC.
> > Put this segment on the top video track and wipe just the "Non
> > visible" lines over your pristine master video track.
> > Output this sequence to a master tape or station dub.
> >
> > Does this make sense as described? It can be done pretty quickly and
> > pretty accurately, especially when the text files are prepped.
> >
> > You still need to have an encoder and you won't get any of the nuances
> > of timing you can get with a tightly authored software package, but you
> > save bucks and get to the family more.
> >
> > Anxious to hear what CC solutions you folks like after NAB.
> >
> > RT
> >
> >
> >
> > Terence Curren wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FCP 7 can do it with a Kona 3 card.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Rick <a_pmb_fan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have someone who was told by a well trusted friend that yes
> > > absolutely, Avid can create it's own captioning from a caption file
> > > now. I haven't missed something here have I?
> > > >
> > > > I told him Marquee can do open captions, but not closed.
> > > >
> > > > BTW he was also told that FCP can do it as well. I worked on MC
> > > 3.5.9 and FCP 7 today and didn't notice anything new in those areas.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Rick Emery
> > > > www.rickemery.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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