Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Avid|DS Training Edition Installation Query

The current versions of Smoke and Flame runs on Linux with Aja Xena
cards and are basically also just software versions (you render
everything, but very quick), so Autoscreet will need to differentiate
based on features they enable, which could cripple this thing fast.
But since clients are generally stupid and will not get the
difference, the overall billable rates for Smoke will crash.

I'd say the primary target for this release is the diminishing Avid
Symphony segment, which is already undead in the water, and not really
DS which was never really intended for the same segment, and which
Avid are already killing off by themselves very well thank you very
much.

K

On 6. nov. 2009, at 20.02, johnrobmoore wrote:

> But will the software version command the same price? Not being
> familiar with the new product I can only imagine without hardware it
> will require rendering. Smoke clients are use to basically real
> time performance aren't they? Just like I've heard film producers
> say they can't wait around for color to render I wonder if current
> smoke clients expectations will be met on the software only version.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>>
>> In your market maybe, in my market Smoke still commands a higher
>> rate than DS. And now at a fraction of the cost.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Quinsee-Jover" <tony@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Way too expensive for what it can do - half that price would still
>>> be OTT.
>>>
>>>
>>> HD Heaven Limited (company no: 04620550) is registered in England
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Terence Curren
>>> Sent: 06 November 2009 15:44
>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Avid|DS Training Edition Installation Query
>>>
>>> You forgot to mention the price.... 15K!
>>>
>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "In other news Avid is about to have its high-end business
>>>> attacked by
>>> Autodesk as they are imminently releasing a software only version
>>> of Smoke
>>> for the Mac with Kona3 for IO. "
>>>>
>>>> Picked this up from another Forum. I have to agree with Knut.
>>>> You can do
>>> all this now on a Mac wit the software mentioned Why should an
>>> autoscreet
>>> product (one with a very steep learning curve...worse than the DS
>>> curve that
>>> so many MC editors whined about) be any different? That said, it
>>> will be
>>> interesting to see if Autoscreet and Apple continue to work more
>>> effectively
>>> on integration via XML...what I saw at NAB a couple years ago was
>>> not very
>>> good at all going from FCP to Smoke.
>>>>
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Smoke is not going to have the tiniest impact on the DS
>>>>> community. It will not offer anything that you cannot already do
>>>>> with
>>>>> FCP+AE, Fusion, Nuke etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5. nov. 2009, at 17.20, Terence Curren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ain't gonna sit well in the DS community....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh really Terry? ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Jesstator" <jesstator@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> << Has anyone out there had a chance to sucessfully install
>>>>>>>> ***AND
>>>>>>>> LAUNCH*** the current version of the Avid|DS v10.2 Training
>>>>>>>> Edition software on a MacBook Pro running Boot Camp v2.1 under
>>>>>>>> MacOS 10.6.1? >>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me thinks you may have another OSX option for advanced
>>>>>>>> compositing and finishing in a few weeks...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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