that no matter what the length the computer will switch on time. Except
of course for sports inserts for which tend to be rolled live in my
experience on a duration take.
If it is a few frames short, all is good, a couple of frames long you
get a 0 duration dissolve back to program. My practise as someone
suggested earlier was to go 4 frames short whether it was a 5" ID, a :15
:30 or :60 commercial or promo. I did have one producer who insisted on
a 15 frame buffer because he wished to avoid any possibility of looking bad.
DD
Rick wrote:
>
>
> A crappy tape room op, who calls the VP of post everytime video or
> audio is brighter or louder than bars/tone, did just that. Another
> editor gave her a tape for encoding and it ended at 1:01:30;02, thus
> causing her to scream over the phone that she couldn't ingest it
> because it is 2 frames to long and it started at 02 and not 00. We
> tried to explain DF to her, but she got pissy and hasn't spoken to
> either of us in 3 days.
>
> No she isn't new. She's well over 40 and has been in the business way
> too long to not know what drop frame TC is.
>
> Does it matter if it's 2 frames longer or shorter? No, all SD material
> is compressed to mpeg2 and sent electronically to master control in
> Denver. All HD is FedEx'd. Everything is captured with B/T, slate,
> spot and some black at the end, so no it shouldn't matter.
>
> Rick Emery
> www.rickemery.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Heiser <jpheiser@gmail.com <mailto:jpheiser%40gmail.com>>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 12:01:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Rookie TC question
>
> Working for an agency, I don't deliver master tapes to broadcasters much -
> we don't do shows, and any spots we do are delivered electronically.
> Still,
> I don't understand the need for hyper-concern on this, on the part of the
> broadcaster or even the client. It would seem to me the tape room op
> at the
> network would enter the starting time code and the duration of the spot,
> letting their ingest system calculate the "out" time. If the spot is
> :30:00,
> then what's the difference?
>
> ----
> John Heiser
> o2ideas
> birmingham, alabama, USA
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks all. The last line is the most important. Do what the client
> wants.
> > These are promos being done in house for a cable network, so they have
> > control of their own stuff. The guy who said this yesterday, ran the
> > technical side of Discovery for about 15 years. I've been doing
> promos for
> > Discovery almost that entire time at post houses and not internally,
> and was
> > never told to end at ;02. He's the boss.
> >
> > An Animal Planet producer years ago, always wanted his spots 29:24
> so they
> > wouldn't get chopped.
> >
> > I've also done hundreds of political ads, and I had a couple of
> > producers/consultan ts make sure we laid back to NDF tape because
> they didn't
> > want to loose those two frames.
> >
> >
> > Rick Emery
> > www.rickemery. com
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
>
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