[Avid-L2] Re: Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

Well it sounds like this just doesn't work without the original sequence. Unfortunately my original sequence is an already decomposed sequence from the AE. Terry can you confirm that the ctrl/alt matchframe still works on the pc side? I'm in all mac land now but I know we learned about this trick back on symphony meridian and as far as I know it still works on pc. Once I promote the motion effect I can match to the original source no problem so all the necessary metadata is still there in the sequence.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rshuff@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting - I must be ages since I tried to do this. Just for the record,
> just now I created a sequence with classic motion effects on one Mac and
> moved the bin with the sequence to another machine (no media). Match framea
> and Bens's Ctrl+option+MF worked correctly on this sequence. I then
> decomposed as you suggested and that broke it ("Try opening the bin that
> contains this clip"). I then opened the bin with the original sequence (but
> did not load it). I then got "Frame not within motion effect boundaries -
> open Motion Effect or Original clip?' (this is MC 4.0) but I could then
> match. I suppose the message is that if you have a decomposed sequence, have
> the original sequence to hand.
>
> I also went from MC 4.0 to Xpro 5.8 with the same results.
>
>
> On 12/10/2009 00:51, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > The reason it works for you and not for John is probably that you are
> > creating the effect and are in the same project. he probably just got the
> > finished sequence in a bin and has created a new project for it. This scenario
> > throws Avid's handling of motion effects and groups for a serious spin.
> >
> > If you want to thoroughly test this, take your sequence bin to another
> > system, decompose, then try linking back. you will see what John is talking
> > about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> OK... just tried this on Mac OS 10.5.6/ MC v3.5
> >>
> >> 1 - Made a traditional slo-mo effect clip
> >> 2 - Cut it into the sequence
> >>
> >> All of these work for me:
> >> A - Match Frame from Sequence = Loads the effect clip in Source Window.
> >> B - Option + Match Frame = Loads the effect clip in Source Window but
> >> does not remove original I/O marks.
> >> C - Control + Option + Match Frame = Loads the Original Master Clip
> >> into the Source Window.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Benjamin
> >>
> >> Benjamin Hershleder
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> >>
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> >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 3:00 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm trying to match to the source not the motion effect. On SN
> >>> classic.pc you can match directly to the souce without going thru
> >>> the motion effect by hitting ctrl + alt + matchframe on the record
> >>> side. Can't seem to get this to work on Mac SNDX 3.5.4. Guess I'll
> >>> try setting bin display to show ref clips and see if the double
> >>> match you suggest works. IIRC the direct match might have only been
> >>> necessary on pc systems where the double match did not work.
> >>>
> >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rshuff@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you trying to match back to the Motion Effect or the original
> >>> source
> >>>> frame? I've never had any problem with this. I have Match Frame on a
> >>>> function key on the Kbd. Hit once - Motion Effect is loaded into
> >>> source
> >>>> monitor. Focus goes to source monitor. Hit key again and the
> >>> source frame is
> >>>> loaded. Or al I missing something. Can't try on your exact version
> >>> but this
> >>>> works on MC 4.0.2 Mac (10.5.8), MC 3.1.3 Win and Xpress Pro 5.8 Mac
> >>>> (10.4.11).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/10/2009 00:20, "John Moore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion
> >>> effect by hitting
> >>>>> Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo). I can't seem to
> >>> find the magic
> >>>>> key combo on a mac. Anybody know? I can always promote the
> >>> motion effect and
> >>>>> get a match but that's cheating isn't it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Moore
> >>>>>
> >>>> +++
> >>>> With best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Shufflebottom
> >>>> Avid Certified Instructor
> >>>> http://www.bottom-line.tv
> >>>> Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK)
> >>>> Mobile: +44 7973 543 660
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
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> +++
> With best wishes,
>
> Roger Shufflebottom
> Avid Certified Instructor
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